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[-] axont@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

Authoritarian is usually code for when white people don't rule a country

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: racism

We really ought to teach critical race theory in schools like conservative politicians and pundits claim.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

lmao did someone really report me over getting their precious little white feelings hurt?

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago
[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago
[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago

Russians got kicked out of whiteness a couple years back

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 months ago
[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

When I was born in China, the spirit of Genghis Khan himself came to me and told me to be authoritarian

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That’s why Russians aren’t “white” anymore. They’ve been downgraded to asiatic horde again, which is why NATOpedia has trotted out meat wave theory again. Like authoritarianism, whiteness is also an ever-shifting construct of imperialism/colonialism.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

I have heard, from leftist, that Russian leadership has a higher tolerance for casualties on their side because THEY see the forced conscripts from easter Europe as disposalable. I have not seen/heard a NATO leader suggesting that they are.

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago

If you're saying authoritarianism can be explained by non-whiteness....

But also saying that anyone opposing NATO become ipso facto non-white because it's "an ever-shifting construct"...

Then the "construct" has no explanatory power.

Why not just say 'authoritarianism' is opposition to the NATO bloc?

You're saying "authoritarianism = non-whiteness = opposition to the NATO bloc"

Why not skip the middle step?

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 months ago

If you’re saying authoritarianism can be explained by non-whiteness…

I’m not saying that. I’m saying that “whiteness” as a construct is a tool of capitalism/imperialism/colonialism. And that the Global North similarly tends to attribute “authoritarianism” to whichever states are acting insufficiently subservient to their imperialist interests at any given moment. And I’m saying that these two constructs have a tendency to be aligned with each other, because they’re both tools of capitalism/imperialism/colonialism.

But also saying that anyone opposing NATO become ipso facto non-white because it’s “an ever-shifting construct”…

Whiteness is as old as European colonialism, and has been baked into capitalism—which began in Europe—from the start. Whiteness has been twisted into all sorts of nonsensical logic pretzels. See for example honorary Aryans honorary whites. It has no explanatory power because it is simply a tool of power. Even the Irish, Italian, and other Catholic European immigrants have suffered it within our own country. As Josep Borrell has more-or-less said, the imperial core is the “garden”, and the rest of the world is the “jungle.” Imperialism uses race—which again is made-up bullshit—as a tool to justify their imperialism.

You’re saying “authoritarianism = non-whiteness = opposition to the NATO bloc”

I’m not saying that, but the NATO bloc often seems to imply it. international-community-1international-community-2

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[-] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

Why not skip the middle step?

Go ask the NATO bloc and their supporters. The obvious and surface answer is that it has to do with making for an easy "us-vs-them" identifier. "Of course they're bad, they aren't white like us good wholesome folk are, who are inherently good and wholesome because we're white, and being good and wholesome makes us right and correct in what we do and you can tell because we're white. The ones who are bad clearly aren't like us. They're not white!" Yes, it is circular reasoning and garbage logic. But I don't know why you're getting pissy at us for that instead of the dipshits white people who keep moving the goalposts on the meaning of whiteness, as they always have done to suit their agenda. Take it up with them.

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[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago

The shite Americans will make about skin-colour.

This comment doesn't stand up to 3 seconds thought. It's their one answer to every question.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Literal swastika-ass Nazis in Ukraine doing terrorism for a decade: we must arm these precious smol boys who are defending western civilization against the Russian orcs!

Literal fascists in Palestine doing a genocide against brown people: fuck your terrorist baby hospitals, there are no innocents in Gaza, bleed em dry and stack em high

Dipshits: Wow how could anyone think there's a racial component to this

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago

Yanks have this one-size-fits-all thing with no knowledge of the world.

First guy was saying Hitler/Stalin/Milosevic/Putin aren't white, this guy is saying Palestinians are brown

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Honestly though, like our grappling with racism in the states smears our views of geopolitics so much. Like we struggle to imagine a culture not wrapped up in it.

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