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[-] garth@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

We can't keep giving up historical symbols and flags each time some assholes decide to adopt them. The pine tree flag is objectively cool and a part of Americans' shared history. It should not be allowed to become an exclusively right-wing nationalist symbol.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Unfortunately, there's no stopping them. Appropriation is part and parcel with them since they make up for their overabundance of vitriol with a tendency towards a complete lack of productive creativity.

Another example is the Gadsden Flag. It was originally an anti-colonial flag designed during the Revolutionary war, but nowadays it's mostly a libertarian "don't stop me from stepping on others" flag. Here's some parody versions, though:

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I'm sad that it's gotten to the point where I assume people with a dozen+ American flags in their yard are right-wing nationalists...

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Just a single flag with no mitigating signage and I assume it is a Christofascist. It's not as strong of a signal as Blue Line, Swastika, or Repub campaign yard sign but you'll be right more than half the time. Two US flags is like 99% certainty.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

That's fair. One is normal. More than that is weird.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

None is normal. I know what fucking country I'm in.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

You know how many houses in Japan fly the Japanese flag? Zero!

Outside of government buildings and the largest train stations, I almost never see the Japanese flag in public.

In fact, because of curry restaurants and fly-by-night English schools, I see the Union Jack and the Nepalese flag more often than I do the Japanese flag.

So, yeah, anyone who stabs their front lawn with tiny American flags like Uncle Sam went minesweeping is a weirdo.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

But what if a space alien lands on the planet but forgot to bring a geopolitical map with them and needed to find out what country they are in so they can ask to see our leader but they have to inefficiently resort to trying out different languages on people instead of looking up and seeing a national flag which would give them the data they need to proceed to ask to see our leader in the correct language?

[-] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I think normal depends entirely on where you were raised. Most of the homes in my neighborhood displayed a single American flag when I was a kid. I do the same as an adult, and I'm glad the sick magalunatics make it easy for us to pick them out with their desperate cries for attention, and their fuck your feelings flags.

[-] janus2@lemmy.zip -2 points 6 months ago

to be fair it's a pretty flag and represents the entire nation of people, not just the shitty government and fucked up history

i think of all the good people i love in my country when i see my flag. it makes me sad to think it's also a symbol of so much bad shit :( but i also understand. :(

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Nah. Nationalism is a blight on society.

[-] janus2@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

being a USA "nationalist" is so dumb because our whole deal is being a nation made up of people from all over the world lol

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

To be fair, flying the flag of the country you're in while in that country, is super lame. I say this as someone who wore the flag while in combat.

[-] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I agree with you, but I grew up in a place where people actually have national pride. And just to be exceedingly clear, that is different from Christofascism and white nationalism. And yes, I did vote for Obama.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Well, that flag has represented horseshit for a long long time now. It only makes sense.

[-] rubicon@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

In Canada you can't fly an official Canadian flag without looking like a right wing nutjob.

[-] undercrust@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

I fly mine all year to make sure the nutjobs don't get to claim it.

Now if you're flying a flag off a car? Completely nuts.

[-] LotzaSpaghetti@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Doubly so if attached to a hockey stick in the bed of a pickup

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Around the NCR, especially on Quebec's side, it's fairly common for people to fly it

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

New California Republic? I assume it's not National Cash Register, because that's not anything geographic.

[-] GentriFriedRice@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

National capital region is an area around Ottawa and Gatineau

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