134
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Umm wasn't 'the labour theory of value' an artifact of contemporary liberal economic orthodoxy

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 52 points 5 months ago

Other labor theory of values had been proposed before Marx, but Marx developed it into a consistent and rigorous form. It was (and should now still be) obvious to even liberals that value is created through labor. How that works, in what amounts, and how that value is imbued and made useful in an economy are things that Marx developed entirely differently to his predecessors

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

Most people play games these days and talk about things being overpriced. I like to use this as a way of explaining value.

Why is the product overpriced? What measure is the person using when looking at a skin you can buy in a videogame to assess its value?

They know people will pay this price, and that it's being priced at the maximum amount efficient for highest profit. But what makes them FEEL that it is overpriced?

Because the price is considerably higher than its value. The method of feeling out the value that human beings use is based on how much labour they think went into the product, proportional to the size of the audience that it is being sold to of course.

I like to use this internal feeling of value to get people to realise that they're using this theory themselves internally without realising it.

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

Other gave good responses, but here are two papers which test the Marxian Labor Theory of Value with contemporary economic data if you are interested:

Zachariah, Dave. Labour Value and Equalisation of Profit Rates: A Multi-Country Study.

Tsoulfidis, Lefteris, and Dimitris Paitaridis. “Chapter 8 On the Labor Theory of Value: Statistical Artefacts or Regularities?” Research in Political Economy, edited by Paul Zarembka, vol. 25, Emerald Group Publishing Limited, 2009, pp. 209–32, https://doi.org/10.1108/S0161-7230(2009)0000025011.

The bibliography of the first paper also has a lot of related reading.

[-] Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Yes. Marx discusses this at length in Capital and criticizes Ricardo and Smith. His contribution with surplus value and how it relates to the coat is one of his many contributions to advancing the LTV.

this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2024
134 points (100.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13535 readers
948 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS