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[-] edge@hexbear.net 67 points 5 months ago

I imagine if the LTV got debunked we'd all have a good time never needing to work, since valuable goods apparently just appear out of nowhere.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

Yeah well what if you made something and no one wanted to buy it? Checkmate, tankie.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Labour is what gives something value, but not all labour is of value (see: Keir Starmer)

[-] NPa@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Keir Starmer couldn't even make a proper mud-pie if he was living in a bog

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

That's essentially what liberals say

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

since valuable goods apparently just appear out of nowhere.

This is literally a foundational theory of mainstream liberal economic models, down in the bedrock where even econ grad students don't get taught about it lmao.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

It’s odd that Marx was inspired by liberal economists, yet the ones we see today are the caricatures of capitalists we see in old timey propaganda

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago

LTV was the greatest achievement of classical liberal economy, but after developing it some more, they realised that by itself it is incredibly damning to the capitalist class and its further development points on socialism (like it led Marx to) and thus the pet economists since JS Mill took a step back into the current hamster wheel in which they still run almost 200 years later. It's not coincidence that even liberal proponents and pioneers of LTV are forgotten (or never mentioned in the context of LTV) and bulk of even educated libs think it was sole invention of Marx - it allows them to claim entire scientific socialism is a cult and one single madman hypnosis over 1/3rd of humanity.

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