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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by itappearsthat@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

People bringing up asmongold saying "I hope they don't make it political" about MGS3 remake as though that's an inherently ignorant thing to say. I've played MGS3. It is an incredibly cheesy game targeted at teenagers with incoherent politics on the level of a james bond film. You have people running around saying the series is anti-war or whatever the fuck. Maybe you can find some buried recordings with the characters talking about some CIA op to topple governments or something. It is not front-and-center. All I can really think of is Ground Zeroes that has you infiltrating Guantanamo Bay. Peace Walker also has you fighting alongside some group who were socialist IRL.

Anyway I just say all this so you aren't as let down as I was when you play the MGS3 remake expecting some sort of full-throated communist propaganda.

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[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

You have people running around saying the series is anti-war or whatever the fuck. Maybe you can find some buried recordings with the characters talking about some CIA op to topple governments or something. It is not front-and-center.

MGS 4's theme is literaly about how the war economy has pretty much destroyed the world and created hell on earth for Private Military Contractors. This is hte continuation of MGS 2 where the "government" is controled by some shadow group that controls the media and manufactures popular consent, an explicit condemnation of US democracy and an exposition of the ties between ~~capitalists~~ the Patriots, the media and the MIC. MGS 2 successfuly predicts the modern internet almost 100% correctly.

The literal title refers to a WMD created by the US MIC to push MAD to the highest stakes even though Kojima himself explains way back in MGS 1 how the post cold war status quo lead to nuclear disarmament and an attempt to control nuclear proliferation. The existence of MG is a commentary on how the US ignores and sabotages their own foreign policy just out of psychopathy and capitalist greed. The fact he is Japanese serves as an even bigger factor given their national trauma. The fact is the US would do another Hiroshima under the right circumstances. Kojima definitely says paraphrasing Baker(MGS) "nuclear war is closer now than ever".

Of course Baker isn't correct, nuclear war isn't going to come from some random small country(DPRK, Iran etc), the point though is to observe he perfectly represents the delusion and obsession with maintaining hegemony and their superpower status. As he says "we need a weapon of overwhelming power", except they don't.

That is the politics of MGS, a small part of it even.

But that loser manchild of a fascist gamer meant "political" strictly defined as the modern american cultural war BS. You should be aware of Ocelot/Snake. That is what they fear. They're not talking about the finer points of the US military industrial complex lol.

this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2024
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