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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 92 points 6 months ago

Tanks are supposed to operate in groups with close support from infantry. The iof infantry are cowards who don't have the stomach for genocide when they have to do it in person on the ground. Thus the tank's are unsupported, leaving them vulnerable to incredible heroics like this.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

There's actually a reason for that, the Israeli tanks can't have infantry support standing in the direction of expected fire, because their own Trophy APS (detect incoming explosives, fires what is basically explosive buckshot in the direction to trigger the explosive before it connects with the tank) will tear said infantry apart. If an RPG is fired at an Israeli tank, coming from the left side, the Trophy System will fire the explosives towards the projectile, explosion occurs, your infantry support on that side of the tank are most likely very dead. If not from catching strays from the trophy system then the prematurely detonated ordinance.

Infantry can only be stationed on sides that there cannot possibly be enemy fire. In a field, facing the enemy, you can have infantry on the sides. In an urban environment, you simply don't deploy infantry with your tanks.

Apparently the trophy system has a reload time of 1.5 seconds, and the faster the projectile the less likely it is able to detect it and fire.

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

Umm ... why would they design a tank which cannot have infantry support? Doesn't that make them basically useless?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

Fascists love their Vundervvaffen. We're going to build a tank so high tech that it can't participate in basic tank doctrine or effectively engage in urban warfare!

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

In an open desert with air support, it should be fine. In an urban environment against Guerilla fighters it's not.

But considering their main targets are ambulances and civilian cars, they'll still roll out the tanks anyway

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

NATOs absolute, unthinking, blind confidence in air power is going to be one of those things historians puzzle over once someone figures out how to 3d print an S600 or some shit.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

NATO's idea of a future conflict being just "WWII with better planes and gadgets like drones" probably stems from all the Axis officers in NATO during its inception. Air superiority didn't win Vietnam, nor Korea, not Afghanistan, nor is it currently helping off the coast of Yemen. But they can't change course now, capital has its grips on the industry and expensive planes that can't fly in the rain or VTOL aircraft like Ospreys falling out of the sky be damned.

What air superiority is good for are indiscriminate war crimes, though, so they'll continue to do that. From the jungles of Vietnam to the streets of Gaza.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Guess it was too hard to put an "off" button on the things. joker-troll

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