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[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I'm not saying we shouldn't cut out salt, but eating unsalted butter or margarine isn't where to cut back. That's for baking. If you want to cut back on salt, take the shaker off the table.

[-] Opisek@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We don't eat salted butter or margarine in Europe. And we're still just fine. You're just used to salt so you can't imagine not having it. It's the same with sugar in tea. It's hard to stop putting it in, but once you're over the adjustment period, you don't feel like you want to go back. Sweetened drinks in general just taste like sugar to me now. I suppose they same might be true for oversalted food.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

100% agree. Stop eating Maruchan ramen, ask for no salt on your fries. There’s lots of ways to reduce salt. Unsalted butter/margarine on your food has got to the stupidest way to cut down on your salt intake.

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 0 points 4 months ago

ask for no salt on your fries

Even better, don't ask for fries.
Go buy some beans and maybe watch a YouTube video on how to cook them tasty, instead of the videos that tell you to eat raw leaves with oil on top and call it a "salad" with "dressing". Then cook the beans and eat them, instead of ordering fast-food while watching the video of another chap, cooking food and eating it.

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Beans are delicious. Potatoes/fries are also delicious. They are in no way comparable forms of deliciousness.

That would be like trying to replace my love of alpine skiing with gothic literature.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Salt is contained in a lot of products. Got salted butter? Smear it on bread. Guess which ingredient is used in bread. Correct: salt. Maybe you put some cold cuts on it. They've got a lot of salt. What about cheese? Salt again. Now you move on to your coffee. You put dairy milk in it: salt. Lunch? Probably a lot of salt. Dinner? Needless to say. If you snack some chips, well, obviously it's a shitload of salt.

Salt is everywhere. Especially in today's food industry. Having salt is not necessarily bad for one's health – in fact, we do need salt for our body to function – but as usual it's the amount that matters.

And according to several dietary authorities worldwide, most people eat too much salt.

WHO:

The global mean intake of adults is 4310 mg/day sodium (equivalent to 10.78 g/day salt) (1). This is more than double the World Health Organization recommendation for adults of less than 2000 mg/day sodium (equivalent to < 5 g/day salt).
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/salt-reduction

FDA (USA):

Americans consume on average 3,400 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day—nearly 50%more than the 2,300 mg limit recommended by federal guidelines for people 14 years and older. Recommended limits for children 13 and younger are even lower.
https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/sodium-reduction

Overview in EU:

International health-related organisations have issued recommendations to limit salt intake to no more than 5 or 6 g per day (see Table 3A). In the EU, most national recommendations that quantify salt intake recommend the same. [...]
In the majority of European countries, the range of intake is 7 to 12 grams of salt per day
https://knowledge4policy.ec.europa.eu/health-promotion-knowledge-gateway/dietary-saltsodium_en

Salt is one of those substances which have large effects even in low doses. Therefore, being above the recommended intake on average increases risks of suffering mainly from:

cardiovascular diseases, stomach cancer and chronic kidney disease
https://knowledge4policy.ec.europa.eu/health-promotion-knowledge-gateway/dietary-saltsodium_en

So, if you're interested in your health, try to get an overview on how much salt you consume on average. And if it's above the recommended intake (which is usually the case), consider whether you really really can not live without salted butter or try to cut down on salt with other meals. And probably, taking the shaker off the table won't be enough.

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 4 months ago

Guess what water with a TDS>0 has? Salt!
Remember that nail your forgot to galvanise and it catching rust? Salt!
Remember the fancy false ceiling? Salt!
Alum, used to precipitate dissolved "hardness"? Salt!
Mineral water has minerals! Salt!

So, if you're interested in knowing about the chemicals that make the world around you, refer to you friendly neighbourhood High School Chemistry book and have FFUUNN!

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

True true. Although you don't suck on rusty nails.

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

You don't know me!

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 0 points 4 months ago

Just wanted to put the point that Natrium salts are not the only salts.

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Look, I'm sure when you were organizing all of that into the great wall of fuck, you meant well, but I didn't ask for it, and the fact that you assume some stranger on the internet has a diet so bad they need to have a wall of text sent to them about the dangers of their perceived salt intake is kinda insulting. So, yeah. Thanks, I guess, but please, find something else to do.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Great wall of fuck", that's creative haha, I like it. xD
I'm sorry if this offended you. It really wasn't my intention to let you feel that way. I just wanted to spread some awareness about this as it's one of our civilisation's great dietary problems. What you do with that piece of information is of course up to you.

and the fact that you assume some stranger on the internet has a diet so bad

I feel like you've not read the part where I said the following:

So, if you’re interested in your health, try to get an overview on how much salt you consume on average.

Which should show that I didn't assume that you specifically have a bad diet. But maybe I haven't expressed myself carefully enough.

but please, find something else to do

Unfortunately, I have to disappoint you in that as writing great walls of fuck on Lemmy, is sometimes a preferred time killer of mine. Also, my experience shows that there are also other readers on Lemmy who can be interested in such great walls of fuck.

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