172
Mamma Mia!
(hexbear.net)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2024
172 points (98.3% liked)
chapotraphouse
13499 readers
931 users here now
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank
Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here
Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
Theres doubt about her reasoning to quit mid-match as she was given the opportunity to do so before. Its possible and my guess is that she helped fan the flames of transphobia.
She gave up a shot in the Olympics for that? So as an Olympic boxer she's more dedicated to transphobia than boxing? And if she was that transphobic wouldn't she just refuse outnof protest in the first place? This all seems a bit hard to buy
she thought she could win and is dedicated to boxing more than transphobia, but after the big hit she lost all confidence and then went with plan B
the international footage of her getting hit and crying is having far more impact and reach than simply protesting/refusing to fight
Body language expert
nothing is about body language, this is from her actual interview responses and following the coverage
it’s a deduction, and you can disagree, but the dismissive “so you’re a mind-reader now
” isn’t needed here
Link the interviews plz
there are chunks transcripted here
https://www.fanpage.it/sport/altri-sport/angela-carini-dice-cosa-e-successo-con-imane-khelif-troppo-dolore-ma-non-sono-nessuno-per-giudicare/
can’t seem to find video of an uncut video interview with her among all the reaction videos but did find one with her coach/corner guy
https://farside.link/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgZcAGXDIeY
Carini says that she does fight men in the ring but she’s never been hit so hard before. Her coach (who actually sounds non-bigoted and that it’s a tough matchup, they were hoping for an easier fight at this stage but had bad luck, and was surprised at the concession) says these two have trained together previously and notes that carini particularly dislikes Khelif.
Unlike her coach, who acknowledges the victory and overall gives respect, that Khelif deserves to be here, Carini is asked if she thinks the fight was fair and responds ‘that’s for the IOC to decide’. Big red flag and combined with saying Khelif hits harder than cis men, she seems like despite using the right pronouns and not outwardly dragging Khelif, that she’s trying to make a case for excluding at least intersex women. When asked about what people are saying online about Khelif, she just says she doesn’t want to get involved.
She never once acknowledges that Khelif won fairly, or denounces the mask off bigots calling Khelif a man. At best she’s a spineless sore loser willing to be used as a tool for the worst people imaginable to beat trans and intersex people with.
Okay, yeah, that's weak crybaby shit at best.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
the international footage of her getting hit and crying is having far more impact and reach than simply protesting/refusing to fight
is the lack of quotes of my earlier comment intentional? none of that has anything to do with body language. people are posting the images and videos of her bawling to garner sympathy while saying she was beat up by a man.
are you saying it takes a body language expert to know that a crying woman evokes a stronger sympathy response that a neutral face? or did you not quote it because now you want to echo that you agree? explain yourself explicitly instead of
gotcha posting
Posting videos and images of someone doing something and then deciding what emotions to apply to it is literally what body language experts do. You also waited until all of this discussion to tell shd straight up said she was beaten by a man. All I wanted was a bit if non speculative evidence and it was pulling teeth to get it, so don't act like this is some own. I don't watch the Olympics
disengage
You dont think people are capable of being petty?
Sure, but it's not my initial assumption
I just saw the video. She didn’t shake hands and just straight up looked like she quit out of protest
Body language expert
Dude, they stopped the fight because they ‘wanted to preserve their life’? As a professional boxer in an olympic games? What kind of boxer even does that?