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Well, Iran and their allies' response may happen sometime this week and apparently they aren't talking to the US in order to negotiate how and where they will hit Israel (and Shoigu arrived in Tehran rather auspiciously), the Bangladeshi government just fell, F16s have been given to Ukraine, there are fascist riots in the UK, and Japan just had its worst stock fall since 1987 and seems to be taking several other countries/corporations with it. I don't really know where to look right now.


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[-] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 54 points 3 months ago

leo-point seen-this-one Exciting to see the Ukraine will-they-won't-they intelligence from the states again

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Initial assessments had predicted an early-week attack, but the latest intelligence suggests that any response may be delayed until late Thursday or Friday.

Wait, hang on a minute. Isn't this literally just saying that on Sunday, they predicted it would happen on Monday, but now it's Wednesday and now they think it will happen on Thursday? Isn't this just the wordiest way of saying "we've been predicting it'll be within 24 hours for the better part of a week"?

This failure of US intelligence aside, I do wonder how and why they keep being incorrect. Do they genuinely have no idea? That seems unlikely, given that I imagine Western intelligence is trying their hardest to get information out of Iran, has satellite images, etc. Has Iran merely been sitting in a ready position for a few days now and could fire at any time, but aren't going to until they feel the time is right, and so the US can only see that preparations are complete and are predicting based on that information? Are there elements inside Iran that are feeding them misinformation about when they're going to strike? Do they actually know when Iran is going to strike, but aren't sharing that information in order to keep the tension high in order to justify a potential retaliatory strike on Iran if it's harmful enough?

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

Not much different from how Iran was been months away from obtaining nuclear weapons for four decades now.

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

every article stops the Nuklear Program for the day becasue they need to hidde it under a big Cloth , that is why they are still are months away..

[-] THEPH0NECOMPANY@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

Iran is probably pushing misinformation out from multiple angles to find out where Intelligence leaks are. Somehow Israel knew where Haniyeh was and exactly when.

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Intelligence is mostly propaganda, I swear. They just keep predicting a relatively sure thing until it happens, and then claim victory for such great prediction. This statement says they have no idea what form it will come in, but I bet after the fact we'll be hearing all about how they knew exactly what form it would take. Their biggest achievement is appearing omniscient when the reality appears to be that they can't predict their way out of a paper bag.

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And Israel does this all the time, too. A massive calamity hits them and they're just like "Oh, yeah, we actually knew that was gonna happen 10 years in advance but we, uh, just didn't stop it. Because, uh, we didn't feel like it." The image of omniscience merely failed by a lack of rapid action is more palatable to the average Zionist who wants to be safe on their stolen land than the truth that they are truly vulnerable and Israel does not always (or even generally) know what's about to hit them and only deterrence and US help has kept the state project alive this long; and now the deterrence has vanished and the aid is insufficient for anything but murdering civilians in tents

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

I think Iran told 10 different people they were attacking 10 different days to figure out who's been leaking and all that intel is getting muddied up in the analysts room.

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