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Harris shuts down Trumpian ‘lock him up’ chants
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I just heard her speak for the first time today.
Better than Joe, but I don't think she's Obama tier. That man was king of the mic.
I'll respectfully disagree and agree at the same time.
2008 Obama? Hell yeah. But 2012 Obama was kind of a slow speaker. His debates against Romney were not shoe-ins. He wasn't as top tier amin his second term as he was in his first.
I uhhhhhhh... never really understood uhhhhhhhh... why Obama uhhhhhhhh... was uhhhhhhh... considered such a great orator. Sure he uhhhhhhh... could uhhhhhhh... clearly communicate a thought, but uhhhhhhh... it fucking took a while to uhhhhhhhh... get it out of his mouth.
This part is true. I think he just had a lot of charisma with it overall. Also, we had Bush Jr to compare him to, which makes anyone competent sound like a genius.
Hey dont insult me like that, I could make Bush look good on one of my bad days. I accidently started a fight in ny friend group yesterday cause I was playing CK2 and said the word gypsy.
Thank you, dude was the William Shatner of Uh. Now go watch Robert Kennedy announce the death of MLK. Or read one of Lincoln's speeches, or Cesar's. There were a lot of great speakers out their of varying ideologies. Its definitely a talent that is sorely needed in a lot of politics today.
I thought that “apes together strong” was powerful, but I’m not sure if I’d put him up there with Lincoln
Speeches don't include unintentional parts like "uh". And there was no recording of Caesar speaking.
Caesar also would shout one line at a time and wait for people to repeat it for the people father away. I'm sure it was awesome live, but an audio recording would sound very strange to a modern listener.
That's pretty cool, and it makes sense. I always wondered how people heard speakers back in the day. Thank you
A classical grammatical rule says: "A sentence must express a complete thought, be able to be written down, and speakable in one breath," which makes a hell of a lot more sense once you get the context of oration.
Interesting, because a lot of literature from 150 years ago breaks the hell out of that rule. Like authors were one upping each other to see how long they can get away with not using a period.
Yeah that's almost 2 millennia post-classical. Printing press had been around for 400 years at that point.
I went to a Bernie rally once and it was somewhat like that. Not with people repeating lines for the whole auditorium, of course, but lots of saying one line and then pause for applause.
Milan? The dog trainer? 😛
I always have to laugh at people who think him going over what he’s going to say before it comes out of his lips as he’s not good at speech.
Homie, he’s actually THINKING before he speaks. I know that might sound weird, but I for one think MORE people need to follow that way of talking.
Tl;dr
I always imagine the Epic Rap Battle with Obama vs Romey for Obama speech cadence.
“Well you’re stupid.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C22wBf2h5k
I remember very few quotes from Presidential or Vice Presidential debates. However Obama vs Romney had one of the most memorable ones:
"Please proceed, Governor."
Everyone wondered what Harris had been doing as VP. It’s this. Preparing to be president.
The debate schedule was the key. One at the beginning and one near the end. If Biden had killed the first debate like he did with Paul Ryan, he’s the guy. If not, Harris is ready and waiting.
I honestly think the race was never as bleak as it seemed. The Dems know what’s at stake and have finally woken up.
I’m never going trust that the dems have a plan.
Yeah Harris may have been waiting for her shot, and she’s getting my vote absolutely, but this wasn’t some dem moonshot to beat Trump. I voted for Biden against Trump. I’d do it again. But there’s many people I would have rather had as our president as a dem voter. I think Kamala will do great, and I’m glad she’s up for the nomination, but this was a moment of a good president realizing he’d do better for America by stepping down, not some ingenious dem plan to keep the White House.
We don’t; we’re just a surprised as you that things are suddenly back on the rails.
They finally seem to not be tap dancing on their own dicks.
Tampon Tim was a good choice. He's already pwned Corporal Couchfucker from the Public Affairs office.
Ok don't believe me just watch.
I honestly think thatbthisbwas the plan all along. Biden pretending to go for round two and then last second dropping out and stepping aside for Harris
Agree. Ultimate 4d chess when Trump had been aiming all his energy at Biden since b4 the corrupt Ukraine call. Switching to Harris 100 days out is genius.
Imagine his power if microphones could amplify rizz.
Bill Clinton was also a decent orator. He visited Ireland while I was in college and I went to see him speak in the centre of Dublin. Charisma just oozed from the guy.
Reagan was also good on the mic in bouts before his mental decline. The balloon pop "missed me" was God tier.
You were in that episode of Derry Girls?
Did they do one on the Clinton visit? I'm sure he travelled around quite a bit as it was around the time of the peace process.
Last episode of series 1 was about Clinton's visit.