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6 year old who shot teacher bragged about it
(www.bbc.com)
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Hmmm, yes, let us murder this child before he has a chance to murder us. This is what a society does.
Bruh, I'm just appealing to utilitarianism here. Also, remember that this child almost murdered an innocent teacher.
Approx. 20.000 juveniles were arrested for murder or attempted murder in 2020 (per the US Dept of Justice) Shall we put them all down, as you say? Just to be safe?
Calling your position utilitarianism is interesting, in what way is really, actually murdering a child (never mind the massive amount of legal, ethical and emotional complications that entail) to prevent a hypothetical future murder maximizing utility for anyone?
No, of course we shouldn't put them all down. But extreme cases like this ought to be considered carefully, and if the risk is high, we should remove these individuals from society.
To your second point, this child already almost killed someone and then bragged about it, showing no remorse. There is a very good chance he will grow up to try and commit murder again; he's too far gone. That's where the utility maximisation comes in.
And re: your point about there being a great deal of legal, ethical, and emotional complications for this kind of policy intervention, I completely agree. Good thing we're just talking shit on Lemmy, right? 😂
What brain-dead form of utilitarianism is that supposed to be? The "I'm-16-and-on-a-wikipedia-bender"-kind?
We don't hold 6-year-old children accountable for very much in a legal sense, because they are essentially animals able to (barely) speak. Thats why we instead regulate gun-ownership, so that no child has access to firearms. And if that doesn't seem to do the trick yet, I'd suggest regulating more comprehensively and holding parents accountable, so that it is very much in their own interest to keep guns from kids. We might also fund social services and schools to the extent that children are able to adequatley learn how to control their emotions and verbalise anger, unhapiness in a non-ciolent way, even if their parents are a bunch of irresponsible idiots.
That seem much preferable to executing a six year old every once in a while to be save.
That's just utilitarianism taken to its logical conclusion, is it not? Don't hate the player, hate the game lol.
And I agree that all of those interventions are preferable to capital punishment for juveniles. But in extreme cases where they are too far gone and are going to grow up to become killers, surely there is more we can do? Cos atm, we just let that happen and innocent people die.
Nation-wide 6mm abortions up until the age of 14 lol
😂
Age 6 was the time to intervene but the system is trash, bare minimum assistance provided generally makes things worse.
You are correct. Have a downvote.
I don't agree with this rehabilitation bullshit, it's only for rich and small countries with already high living standards. Any other country, and it will be just like you said, a bunch of people working their assess off just for a slight chance at a psycho not turning into a disgusting asshole.
Yes rehabilitation costs money and time, but do you realise that the death penalty often uses more money and resources than keeping somebody alive and in prison for the remainder of their life?
It baffles me when people like you jump to these extreme conclusions. Kids a fucked up little shit, but here you are calling for his death. That in itself is extremely fucked up.
No see he wants the restrictions on the death penalty to be removed so the state can execute people easily
It's because he wants the "undesirables" killed off where he can't see it happening.
Yeah. I would also say that even in rich and small countries, it's hard. Some people are just born psychos - far ends of the bell curve, etc etc.
Yeah lets just kill all children who show psychopath/violent tendancies.
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not all.