Did Orwell ever talk about what he was trying to accomplish with 1984? (hexbear.net)

submitted 4 months ago by Frank@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Some nerds were doing that thing where 40k fans are like "OH NO SEXZ IS HERESY!" when it's pretty definitively not and is basically one of the only things in 40k that isn't heretical (as long as you're not doing evil slannesh shit) and it got me thinking about repression of sex under "in bad country regimes".

And a whoooooooooooooooooooooooooole fucking thing in 1984 was how liberating and humanizing it was that the author's grungy middle aged self-insert was boning a 19 year old member of the Junior Anti-Sex League, and, like... America has several thousand different Junior Anti-Sex League and I'm not sure if the USSR ever had any? Like, yeah, maybe they did, but under capitalism Americans have literally convinced themselves they'll go to hell if they see a tiddy and the English famously just hate joy. So what the fuck was Orwell trying to critique with his "Junior Anti-Sex League" in spoooooky Stalinist England?

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 56 points 4 months ago

Orwell's works make more sense as critiques of the US and that's really funny to me.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 4 months ago

Because liberals project all their flaws onto AES countries.

[-] ComradeSpahija@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago

Exactly, I read 1984 when I was still kind of a lib and I still thought "hey, this just sounds like the US!" lol

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago

I was a very young american conservative boy when I read it and I also was like "wow this is a critique of my country!" The book was one of many baby steps left for me and so I always find it extremely funny that it wasn't supposed to do that.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago

Same, but with Animal Farm.

Now I'm a girl and I respect Stalin.

Sorry Orwell, you fucked up.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

waow-based

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

Word. I hope there's a hell so he has been able to watch his beloved Capitalism turn in to the hell he thought Stalin's USSR was.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

One of those Isekais, except it's Orwell in a cyberpunk realizing "I fucked up I fucked up"

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Orwell gets Isekai'd to modern Britain and thinks Stalin took over until someone finally shoves a history book in his face and the last shot is just him standing in the British rain staring bleakly at nothing.