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Do Kamala and the Dems want to lose? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 day ago by Lussy@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Everything coming out of their mouths, their actions…like, this all seems like self sabotage? Campaigning in Michigan with Cheney, ‘what happened on October 7th is so much worse than the genocide in Gaza’, ‘the empathy we did not display towards gaza doesn’t mean we support Gaza’.

Sub zero intelligence in that campaign/party or are they actively campaigning to lose? It’s a train wreck lmaoo

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[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think that they would like to win, but don't know what is broadly popular and are constrained by the donors and by wanting to turn the Dem party into the 2006-era GW Bush Republican party.

Obviously you can do all that and still run a good campaign by just lying about it, like Obama for example. A Dem party with better PR would still adopt all the Liz/Dick Cheney policy positions, but wouldn't constantly talk about how much they love them.

Also, there are a bunch of consultants who will get paid either way, those people probably don't care about winning at all.

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

I've seen someone else on the site, I think z poster?, makes the comment that the reason that they can't lie or even be subtle, is that Israel freaks out so badly anytime they say anything that could even be interpreted as not getting full support to the genocide.

Understandably people keep asking them questions about this topic, and the correct move would be to be evasive, or just lie, but they aren't able to.