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usually I don't mind Tony, although he is sometimes irritating. This however was just racist. Shockingly so. And it wasn't just thoughtless racism - it came off as super racist BECAUSE it wasn't at all funny.
Shane Gillis' 'burger cuts you off in traffic' joke is a good example of how to get that sort of thing right (near enough).
Clearly Tony is a much better host than he is a standup comedian.
I feel so weird about Shane Gillis. Like he hangs out with all those chuds, his comedy is just on the line. Maybe it is over it, it's just... I dunno, maybe it's just cause I like some of his jokes. stuff like church on vacation is either coming from a place of love and funny or it's coming from a place of exoticism and racist. But then again he is on all those podcasts and killtony and the like.
On the other hand I see him dunk on those same chuds. It seems like he just found an "in" and used it. Like I feel like his sketches shows an awareness chuds don't really have. I'm thinking of things like uncle daycare, The last white football team and the floor. I dunno, I feel like I'm waiting for him to fall thru a thin sheet of ice and show his ass like that Kramer guy.
I think he already had that moment - when his SNL got cancelled. Listening to the old podcasts too you can tell he was quite reactionary. I think some of it still boils under the surface.
In all though, like a lot of the American comedians who have 'alright' moments, they tend to skew 'apolitical' libertarian but with free healthcare opinions. The types that Bernie could get to vote for him rather than Trump, when ordinarily they wouldnt support a different democrat demon like Clinton/Biden/Harris.
I went through a big phase of listening to MSSP. I think a big part of what they've got going is a feeling of authenticity, and security in themselves. I think that goes a long way in stopping true weirdo brainworms from taking hold - because so much of the Right especially is wrapped up in weird masculinity complexes and WASP self worth problems.
Yeah I remember hearing about that. I don't really listen to the type of podcast he's on, so I wouldn't know, but that sucks to hear. Maybe it was a wake up call, though I doubt it. On the other hand almost all other chuds that stuff happens to do nothing but talk about being cancelled.
I guess I just want him to not be an absolute turd.
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