They were running against a batshit insane senile cheeto and couldn't win the election anyway. They refused to go left, they collaborate with devils like the cheneys and when we pointed out the writing on the wall, we were met with "russian disinformation farms" and "tankies" for having a fucking brain and seeing that moving right will not make racist sexist republicans vote for a black woman. And lo and behold, 94% of republicans voted for trump, FUCKING OBVIOUSLY. The only fucking reason Kamala didn't run on being progressive was because at the end of the day, there's no "lesser evil," and we've all been saying this for fucking ever, the democrats are genocidal capitalist ghouls, and they will support america's interests no matter how much blood is spilled and no matter how many people get stomped on by bigots controlling the white house, the senate, the supreme court (which the democrats just let get stocked with republicans) and probably the house too. And they don't care. "Just give us money and make sure to vote blue next election" before they slink off into the darkness and begin their political pickpocketing two years from now. FUCK, now queer and genderqueer and bipoc people in america have to live with the republicans doing whatever they want for the next four years because GOD FORBID THE DEMOCRATS LISTEN TO A SINGLE FUCKING HING THEIR CONSTITUENTS SAY INSTEAD OF PLUGGING THEIR EARS AND SCREAMING "VOTE!"
i hate it here. every one of you redditors that posted shit like "i'm on the right side of history" while you refuse to leverage your one single fucking scrap of political power in this shitty dictatorship. fuck lemmy.world, fuck reddit, fuck libs for soypogging for kamala's campaign and not using their eyes to see that there's no difference in the end, the ghouls are ghouls.
As much as we clown on
Trump was worse when it comes to drone strikes.
There is an almost reflexive urge to downplay Trump around here, he is the one that set the course of heightened tensions with Iran, provided steadfast support for the Saudis war in Yemen and that moved the embassy to Jerusalem. He isn’t going to be good for the Middle East, hopefully the Ukrainian meat grinder will stop though.
The only other bit that is different is that Trump reeeally riles up the hogs, and vulnerable folks are more likely to face stochastic violence
As I understand it, Trump and Harris appeal to different strata of the bourgeoisie, so I feel like they will differ somewhat in other ways as well. The scope of these differences is obviously limited, but it's not nonexistent.
Pretty much; he emboldened the shit out of hate groups and far-right cranks, and there's no putting the lid back on that Pandora's box. Material conditions getting measurably worse under Biden sure as fuck didn't help either, but CHUD analysis doesn't really extend beyond "blue team bad."
if you're white it doesn't matter, sure. but racism is still a real thing, and rhetoric makes its way to material conditions.
Look up hate crime stats. There are plenty of articles about hate crimes increasing after Trump's first win. I'll never understand why leftists downplay Trump and his impact.
Yeah but did you accout for all the peaceful protests against genocide being counted as antisemitic hate crimes?
oh ffs
Yes, it's almost like trump winning the first time around made things worse and then those people who became more radicalized didn't just vanish when trump lost round 2
From 2008/2009 until 2015/2016, hate crimes in the US were trending down. From 2016 until today, they have trended up. To me, the best explanation for this is the rightwing radicalization (and empowerment of the already radicalized) of many by the first trump campaign and subsequent presidency.
Outside of hate crimes, we can also see general increases in rightwing violence during this same period (at least according to the feds, not sure that we should even trust any of this data). I'm not saying electing a Dem fixes anything, I'm saying Trump being elected makes it worse because the people doing the hate crimes feel empowered.
Obama being elected also made it worse, but because the racists felt attacked by the very idea of a black person being prez and were reacting to that, which is why it slowly died down over time. Trump is still here and still actively engaging his base, he never stopped so the radicalization didn't stop either.
It's just talk to you but it's a more delicate subject to others.
Your quick analysis literally shows an increase in hate crime stats starting from 2016. Right wing radicalization incited by Trump's rhetoric didn't go anywhere just because Democrats won something.
"proud boys" and "patriot front" regularly drove into [my city] to pick fights with anyone they thought looked weak and lefty, especially trans folk. they did "trump cruise" truck parades and shot paintballs from their windows at passers by. the fash get extremely emboldened when their guy is in office. he is a danger and his status as president gives these groups the "permission" they need to continue their violence. it is real.
Oh, I forgot about those. Those were annoying
i am nervous that policy may be altered under a congress white house and supreme court stacked with republicans who historically implement anti-queer policies (see florida) that negatively affects me, my friends, my comrades, and my peers. it's not an unreasonable worry that, given the opportunity, laws may be passed that curtail the rights of queer people in america
this is the main thing that im worried about, specifically a federal ban on gender marker changes, a federal requirement to out trans and gay kids in schools, or a likely unsuccessful attempt at an hrt ban.
also afraid that bigots might be emboldened, but sounds like the stats say theyve always been emboldened since 2016.