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For your sake, I hope you're right. We're not sticking around to find out.
Again, for your sake, I hope you're right.
Yes, that's what I'm afraid of.
What the hell are you talking about??? We didn't "pull through". The south tried to leave the union, and we said "oh no you don't, ya little shit!"
Yeah and it only took the deaths of many hundreds of thousands of Americans fighting with muskets and cannons. I dread to think what a civil war would look like today
I haven't seen much evidence of that. Quite the opposite, in fact.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/racist-text-messages-black-people-slavery-election-states-rcna179289
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/nov/08/your-body-my-choice-harassment-toward-women-surges/
https://newrepublic.com/post/188230/donald-trump-maga-violence-threats-girls-rape
https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/maga-house-republicans-pass-resolution-to-undo-title-ix-rule-protecting-lgbtq-students-pregnant-parenting-students-and-survivors-of-sexual-assault-harassment
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hitler-poison-blood-history-f8c3ff512edd120252596a4743324352
Like I said, we're not sticking around to find out.
Bye. I'll be over on the other side of the Atlantic where they're outlawing conversion therapy.
Strangely, your "it won't be so bad, we're learning" argument doesn't convince me my queer child will be safe in Trump's America.
Not even a little.
Not when Trump's biggest supporters are already calling for trans genocide. The rest of queer America won't be far behind. But you go ahead and tell them "it won't be so bad" as they're getting marched into boxcars. I'm sure they will feel much better about it.
There's a novel by Sinclair Lewis. You should read it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here
Your child absolutely WON'T be fine.
San Fransisco is by percentage yhe gayest city in America. The 2nd gayest is Lakewood Ohio, and has been for decades.
Lakewood has always had a very good police response time. It's a very small city. About 6 miles long, and 2 miles wide. If you call the police, even for something minor like littering, the police are there in 2 minutes or less.
Recently I would say gay acceptance had reached an all time high, where gay people no longer should feel the need to be closeted.
I feel the pendulum is about to swing back HARD.
There was a time when a gay man in Lakewood got beaten by 4 men with baseball bats. It happened just after 2:30am. Bars aren't legally allowed to serve alcohol in a bar after 2:30. So they all close at that time.
This man walked out of the bar. He was clearly gay. Lakewood has always been a safe space for the gay community. These 4 men, driving through in a van, saw him walking on the street. They jump out of the van, each with those metalic baseball bats. They beat him until he fell down. Then they took out a pair of handcuffs and handcufffed both wrists to a chainlink fence so he was 100% helpless. They then proceeded to beat him completely to death. Leaving his head completely split open in a pool of his own blood.
But this wasn't recent. In a city where you're only 2 minutes away from cops showing up, this beating went on for 45 minutes. The cops didn't arrive until after sunrise at 7:30am because a parent walking her kid to school screamed. THAT scream got the cops called. Not the 45 minute beatdown screaming in literal murder. Not someone else discovering the body in the 2 hours 45 minutes a corpse sat in its own blood during bar closing rush.
I'm 100% convinced the police had to have been called, multiple times, over this. There is NO WAY a dead body, in a small city as densely populated as lakewood, went totally unnoticed the entire time it sat there, much less the entire struggle and beatdown.
This was at a time when being gay was seen as a cause for physical violence. Where people agreed that gay people were evil and deserved to die.
I'M not saying that. I'm saying what I remember society was when I grew up.
Now it sounds like I'm describing the 1960s or some shit. This was 1994. This was objectively not that long ago.
Where police and public alike ignored a man being beaten to death because he deserved it for being gay.
Where the only reason EMS was called was because a traumatized kid didn't know the body was long dead, and thought there was a chance to save him.
And that mother who screamed, and tried to shield her son from seeing what she saw? That was my mom. I will never forget that sight. Most people never see a real human brain. I have. I saw it in chunks on the sidewalk, and in his head still split in half.
They sent a message that day. Not to him, but to the area around them. Not even Lakewood is safe to be gay.
And I fear we're headed back to that. I'm not even gay, but I'm also not a monster. I feel everyone should have a right to exist, and not be targeted for their identity.
Unfortunitely, it's not a 100% shared belief.
What's infuriating to me is that my mother seems to think my never-in-the-closet daughter can just go into the closet and, as she put it, "obey the rules" and she'll be fine. No she fucking won't. The internet is forever. She hasn't kept being queer a secret because she's never been ashamed of it and she shouldn't be.
Even if I thought she'd be fine if she just did that, it's not fair to her. It's not right to keep her from love.
What a lot of people are either too young to know or don't remember is that it was wasn't fully legal to be queer in the U.S. until 2003.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
Meanwhile, we have current SCOTUS justices saying we should revisit the marriage issue.
Oh goodie, this again. I have to do this at least once a day on Lemmy now.
I am moving to the UK, because I am a dual citizen.
Every year, the king gives a speech where he lays out the government's agenda.
This year, it included ending conversion therapy.
Labour is behind it. The king is behind it. The C of E is behind it. Because the C of E is behind it, even enough Tories are behind it that will happen.
You and all of the other people claiming that my daughter is just as safe in a country with a lot of conversion therapy as she is in a country outlawing conversion therapy don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
This may come as a shock to you, it certainly doesn't seem to occur to all the other people like you since Wednesday, but I actually do look into shit when it comes to keeping my family safe. Because I may be an idiot, but I'm not fucking stupid.
I thought it was Britain directly, not Canada, that torched it
When you leaving?
Before the end of January. I have the good fortune of dual citizenship.
Good luck, I'm hoping that I can get a worker's visa through my employer to move to the UK myself.
Thanks. Good luck to you too!
Care to list some of the others? I could use some contextualization, cause this feels pretty fucking bad.