[-] Angel@hexbear.net 13 points 6 hours ago

The only thing that CW needs now is rock 'n' roll.

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 3 points 15 hours ago

Regardless of framing, the notion that leftism and carnism are, in any way, compatible is a false one. Also, even if phrased in a kinder, less absolute manner, it seems rather naïve for one to expect that carnistic leftists would not find a take that points out the discrepancy between leftism and carnism to be upsetting. Doing so seems to be inadvertently validating this notion that people have an issue with vegans being "rude" or how they "approach" spreading their ideas. This isn't true. Rather, they have an issue with vegans being principled and unapologetic regardless if they are rude or kind in the process, and they are uncomfortable with the ideas themselves.

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago
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No non-human animal can be vegan because they are not moral agents.

Cats, however, can survive and thrive on plant-based diets. Yes, really.

The pooled evidence to date from our study, and from others in this field, indicate that cats fed nutritionally sound vegan diets may be healthier overall, than those fed meat-based diets. Regardless of diet type, diets should always be formulated to be nutritionally complete and balanced, without which adverse clinical signs may eventually be expected to occur.

I trust that you have good intentions, but this is just opening the door for carnist concern trolling, which we definitely don't need on a thread like this of all of the things I could post in c/vegan.

With that in mind, are you vegan?

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 9 points 19 hours ago

"Privileged white kid"

Yikes.

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I don't agree with the gatekeeping of the take from a literal point of view, but rather I think that the sentiment of "It is reactionary to support exploitation and oppression, and it is hypocritical to claim that you oppose it while still continuing to support it" that leaks from it is spot on 100-com fire vegan-liberation-rad

Also, I gotta love how someone posted two separate comments within a minute of each other just to articulate a very short point of this take being "ableist." That's 100% indicative of seething.

I also love (this time using this word unironically) that she's a fellow black vegan communist who is sick of non-vegan leftist bullshit.

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago
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Still think Y. P. Pull aren't oppressed?

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For example:

Carnist: "Hey, you want a slice of this pepperoni, triple cheese pizza?"

Vegan: "Sorry, no thank you, I'm vegan."

Carnist: "Oh, wow! Nice! I respect that! Yeah, I would go vegan, but I just would struggle with protein, B12, and iron if I did! Like, I tried being vegan for a week and got so sick! I still eat plant-based alternatives every now and then, though! And I totally get where you're coming from with your ethics! Yeah, the way they treat animals on those factory farms is crazy, bro! I hope those cruel practices can be abolished one day. Complete solidarity with you and the animals, dude! ✊ In the meantime, I absolutely try my best to get my meat, dairy, and eggs from local, free-range, humane, and organic farms!"

Vegan: "Okay?"

Like, seriously, just saying "Oh, okay." and moving on with your life would be preferable over this shit.

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It's why I don't use the term myself.

Are there instances where vegenaises* do use their chuddiness to give God awful takes on things like Israel's veganwashing? Yes.

Are there instances where it seems like some vegans need to be educated on the fact that other forms of oppression beyond the kind of oppression that the movement is fighting against can exist within that movement? Yes.

Are there vegans who just do some all-around cracKKKer shit that makes it seem like they're completely forgetting the anti-oppression nature of the animal liberation movement? Yes.

But let's be real here: most of the times that people have gripes with "white veganism" are just instances where they're trying to reconcile the cognitive dissonance of harboring a reactionary sentiment (anti-veganism) and leftism simultaneously.

Let's not forget that many of these fuckers who do this are white themselves and have also proven themselves to be totally inconsiderate of the voices of BIPOC vegans.

*vegenaise = vegan mayo = white vegan

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PSL because I clearly am privileged and don't understand how much the marginalized need the godsent revolutionary leader, Kamala Harris, who will purge society of all reactionary and bourgeois tendencies and definitely not further those tendencies instead.

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It's like these libs believe that Kamala is entitled to our vote.

If I didn't vote for PSL, then I simply would not vote! It's not "PSL or Kamala;" it's "PSL or sit on my ass at home."

I know libs don't understand nuance, but it still is so frustrating that they put this framing on me where they assume that I have any actual interest in a Kamala president over a Trump presidency.

Not only that, but this person called Claudia de la Cruz a "clowny leftist with no choice of winning" (which isn't the point of a third party vote; let's be real), but I just told the lib, "You call her clowny, but you are literally guilt tripping and insulting me just because I won't vote for someone who is actively greenlighting a genocide on Palestinians." and then I blocked.

Whether Trump or Kamala wins, I'll enjoy social media outrage from either side, but it seems like what I'll see from liberals in the case of a Trump election will be more entertaining. I truly think libs are beyond being redeemed, and that even goes for the more "progressive" types who appropriate the label of "democratic socialist" like Bernie and AOC. I don't adhere to lesser-evilism, so I'm not gonna pretend that this one-party state with two parties has one side over the other functioning in a way that could especially benefit me.

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What I mean by this is that I've talked to tons of libs, usually white, who'll look at and/or interact with me as a black, androgynous transfem, and they'll say shit like, "I really hope Kamala gets in office for real, though. I don't agree with her position on Gaza, but Trump's gonna do so much damage if he gets elected for a second time!"

And I just nod my head along to it. I don't say a word of explicit agreement or disagreement. If I said that I disagree and that I'm not voting for Kamala, then in usual lib fashion, they'll see it the same level of absurdity as me saying, "I'm a black non-binary transfeminine Trump supporter. I'm like an even more colorful spin on Blaire White! MAGA! You mad, woke liberal SJW mob?" trollface

They're so out of touch that they can't fathom why, to any degree, a person like me would be so opposed to supporting the "99% Hitler" party, and 99% is even charitable. That's why they always assume that any leftist who's not voting for Harris is just a cishet white dude who doesn't understand the plight of the marginalized, and if you're not a cishet white dude and you reveal to these libs that you don't support Harris, you'll have many scratched liberal moments, of course. Speaking from experience!

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 85 points 3 weeks ago

At this point, he should've fined them a googol dollars. che-laugh

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 91 points 1 month ago

hitler-detector Now THAT is a scratched liberal...

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 110 points 2 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but casually erasing the existence of anti-Zionist Jews seems pretty antisemitic to me.

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