Cop: kills innocent man; gets 2 years of prison
Student: burns 2 ugly as fuck cars in protest, hurting no actual people; gets several decades of prison
Wait, your cops are going to prison?
Sometimes they need a fall guy otherwise the peons start to see a pattern.
Very rarely. And only in the most grotesque cases.
Yes, arson is a crime, and rightly so. “Decades behind bars”, however, for setting two cars on fire (and damaging two charging stations) is insanely disproportionate. There’s a very important reason that not all infractions are sentenced to the maximum possible extent:
If the government is going to drop any pretense of mercy or sanity, then there’s no reason why people shouldn’t take their time, plan things carefully, and destroy the whole dealership. People who would otherwise do less damage are taking note. Sure, some will be scared away, but I think more will be emboldened. Maybe I’m wrong, but it doesn’t matter. Either way, the end result will be worse.
The government is basically telling people that prosecutors won’t be reasonable, so you might as well make sure the crime is truly worthy of the punishment. I cannot overemphasize what a terrible idea this is.
It's like the zero-tolerance policy my at my kid's school...
I told them if you get hit, since you're going to get suspended anyway, fight back until I get there to pick you up.
“zero tolerance” in public schools is 100% copout cowardice from administrators who would rather hide behind policy instead of having to earn their six-figure incomes by making the basic fundamental decisions that the job duties entail. All principals everywhere are midwit cowards.
two Tesla Cybertrucks worth more than $100,000
Doubt
I mean, it looks like a new cyber truck starts at $62k right now. They're not wrong, but that's no reason to completely ruin this guy's life, he's already paying for college...
What they are worth is what someone is willing to pay for it, not what Tesla prices it at.
They aren't selling: Cybertruck Isn’t Selling So Tesla Shifts Production To What Actually Sells
Even Tesla doesn't want them and refuses them as trade-ins but will take other cars so its not a problem with trade-ins in general: Tesla Is So Cooked That It's Now Refusing to Accept Cybertrucks as Trade-Ins
but that’s no reason to completely ruin this ~~girl’s~~ guy's life, she’s already paying for college…
We agree on this.
I'm not a lawyer but the feds claiming it as a federal case because cars could be used in interstate commerce seems lame. Should be a Missouri case, not a federal case.
They are pushing for federal because it involved Elonazi's Swasticars.
The rule of law isn't important anymore.
The rule of law is dead. Enter the age of action and consequence.
If you get decades for that then this just encourages going all in.
Should have led an insurrection instead, and then become president. Though I forgot if you need to also defraud a charity, be a cheating rapist slumlord and get convicted of 34 felonies first, or if the order doesn’t matter. Things are changing so fast nowadays.
They really are this dumb.
They think this will discourage targeted destruction of an oligarch? Decades for worthless cars?
If you get decades for that- make sure to get the rest of the lot. Bonus points for for a factory.
Feed birds next to Tesla dealerships.
You know what? I know this was a joke but this is a fantastic idea. A way to protest that even the old and weak can take part in. What are you going to do, outlaw feeding birds? Good luck with that.
I really don't like jury duty. And would do plenty to get out of it. If I got called for this one. I would happily nullify it as hard as I could.
No you would not. You would find that she is not guilty.
Only if nullification was not a possibility. Nullification sends a much stronger and important message. Namely we don't give a fuck if they're guilty or not. Because this is a bullshit show trial that does not have Justice in mind. Yes I'm aware prosecutors often ask for the largest applicable sentence possible eventually negotiating down. That doesn't make this any less bullshit.
What you're describing has a name, and that name is nullification.
No it’s not. Discussing nullification would get be booted off a jury. However, if considering all the facts, I were to vote not guilty, it would not.
Think whatever you like but jury nullification is when a juror votes "not guilty" when they actually think someone is guilty of a law that they disagree with.
Okay. Apparently you think I’m fighting you for no reason. Is it nullification? Yes. Don’t call it that. Don’t talk about that. Because it will get you booted off a jury.
Haha, I mean, we're definitely arguing over semantics but you're saying something equivalent to, "No, don't eat ice cream. Put some in your mouth and then swallow it, but don't eat. We never eat."
Lesson learned, I guess. If she had only set fire to the Capitol in support of an insurrection in support of the far right, she'd be up for a pardon.
I used to drive on State Line past that lot full of Teslas daily, always saw a ton of Cybertrucks just sitting. Once Musk started getting so much (more) hate I figured it was a matter of time before someone torched it.
Also, I always find it funny how it's totally just a road that divides the states, I'd drive to work and be "in" Missouri and drive home "in" Kansas lol
How can you possibly blame this kid when Cybertrucks have been known to self-immolate? They have faulty batteries that catch on fire left and right; the rustbucket was likely already on fire before he got there.
How much is her bail
Impossible. She was at my house at the time of said incident.
I set fire to that dealership.
Just getting started
The keyword here is "Alleged". As far as anyone knows, She was just falsely-flagged.
Too bad he wasn’t a right wing kid shooting liberal protestors to death because he’d be hailed as a hero and given awards and tv appearances.
Needs to cry in court first
Don’t get captured
What thee heck is a destructive device? A can of petrol? This is ludicrous, double and triple charging people.
If we ever get another President not named Trump this will be pardoned instantly.
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