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[-] Photuris@lemmy.ml 82 points 2 months ago
[-] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 59 points 2 months ago

The Bay Area is probably the only thing keeping that company alive. Every stoplight you pull up to there has at least a couple Teslas

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 months ago

I know a lot of people who bought teslas before musk became a full blown oligarch and feel uncomfortable about it

[-] blacklisted@lemmy.org 12 points 2 months ago

I'd sell that shit at a loss.

[-] proudblond@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Any car is sold at a loss. As someone who recently paid one of these off, I can’t stomach a new car payment in the face of our melting economy because six years ago I didn’t foresee the head of a car company turning out to be a freaking nazi.

Considering my Tesla replaced a VW TDI, I’m feeling particularly salty and completely disillusioned about ethical consumption under capitalism, etc. etc. I wish people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

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[-] Pirata@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

They just weren't paying attention then because Musk has always been exactly that.

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[-] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Supports a literal Oligarch Nazi

Feels uncomfortable about it

Doesnt do anything about it

Sounds about right for America in 2025.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

Realistically though what are they going to do about it? They probably can't sell the vehicle because of the now stigma attached to it and if they don't sell it they probably can't afford a new car.

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[-] Ton@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

When they're up for renewal, they won't be replaced with Teslas.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

...and even those are likely pre-ElonSeigHeil purchases.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago

Even in iowa you see them all over. There are so many drivers any car make other than the most exclusive will be seen soon if you fixate on it (read look).

Stastics show tesla is a tiny brand by market share. However they are wer the only ev brand until reciently so people focus on them.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

And that’s really the only reason I have one - it was the only long range electric car available when I bought it. Now I would choose any of the many other options first.

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[-] Matt3999@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

Just imagine if there wasn't a crazy tariff on Chinese cars the figure would be even lower. BYD are making some great cars

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 2 months ago

BYDs are everywhere now in Australia. Not sure what alternative brands are available in the US, is it just Rivian?

[-] adavis@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

And other Chinese brands!. The MG4 is super popular in Australia too. Can get it for about $38k AUD ($25k USD).

Even if Tesla wasn't tarnished by association with Musk, they have absolutely nothing at the budget end of the market. ie for buyers that traditionally bought corollas, little Mazdas and Hyundai's.

And BYD has the whole range, if I want a luxury sedan the BYD Seal goes toe to toe with the model 3.

I think China is going to eat everyone's lunch here in the same way Japan did in the 70s/80s, and Korea went in even cheaper in the 90s and 00s (how many Hyundai Excels/Accents were there in Australia in late 90s early 00s).

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

On the more affordable end around here I see a lot of electric cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Kia, and Hyundai around here, and to a lesser extent Volkswagen. On the high end it’s mostly Mercedes-Benz and BMW, sometimes Porsche. Once in a while I’ll see Rivian but they don’t have a dealership in our state. Even more rarely I’ll see Polestar, which does have a dealership in a city at the other end of the state, and at least one person here has a Lucid Air.

Edit: also on the high end, there’s at least one Hummer EV driving around here.

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[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago

Rivian & the 2 or 3 models the big manufacturers have. I see way more hybrids than full electrics in my area.

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[-] turnip@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Musk already got what he wanted. He bought Trump, and Trump will give Palantir every ounce of government data to analyze, which was likely a sticking point for Palantir to cement them as the only viable product for the US governments future military applications. Once pandoras box is open for classified data its a little bit hard to close it, especially once they gain a dependence on it.

Palantir then buys his crappy xAI platform that recently bought Twitter.

[-] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

This belongs in uplifting news

[-] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

0% would be uplifting. This is still way too many people supporting a piece of shit.

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

These guys are FAKE NEWS and Need to be DEPORTED for Hurting ELON MUSKS FEELINGS!

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I have duly upvoted your obvious sarcasm.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 14 points 2 months ago
[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

I refuse to believe that it was over 50%

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

This is only electric car market share.

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago
[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

In Europe Tesla isn't even #1 on EV anymore, they have been surpassed by VAG aka Volkswagen Group.
Depending on how you compare, they are probably a little bit more expensive, but also higher quality.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

but also higher quality

That's a low bar.

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[-] nao@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

It's crazy that one manufacturer being below 50% market share is news.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They had near 100% EV market share just a few years back.

Losing half the market in 3-4 years is a huge change for any company, even if some of it was inevitable as rivals caught up and suprassed their offerings.

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[-] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Keep it up Cali! FUCK EM!

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

after what he has done to californias fast rail system, with the hyperloop scam, he deserves much more.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

At some point prices will get so low that it'll make sense to buy a Tesla and rework the body so no one knows it's a Tesla.

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[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 6 points 2 months ago

Another potential Tesla alternative to add to the list: https://www.telotrucks.com/

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

As an European i don't understand at all those open trucks. The back side is completely wasted space, is unusable, stuff will get stolen when you park (or even at the traffic light), or will get soaked in rain. It also lowers aerodynamic efficiency. That one time in my life when i would need to move a fridge or a mattress i could just rent it for 3 hours

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Much of America is rural, and pick-up trucks are extremely useful on a daily basis in that world. Then country music made it a metaphor for masculinity, and dopey suburbanites embraced it to enhance their personal brand image as tough guys.

[-] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

I mean, you can always hook a trailer to a normal car or something like a Subaru Outback if you're going off-road. That's what people do here. Monday to Friday they commute in their normal, affordable, not extremely huge car and on Saturday the trailer comes out.

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[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago

Musk really shot himself in the foot. He deserves it.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

head next plz

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