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Java Bros (lemmy.ml)

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[-] Hupf@feddit.org 11 points 16 hours ago

Remember J#?

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not a big M$-fan but I actually like c# a lot. Java not so much.

I'm no pro though, I just guerilla-code in my spare time. But of all the languages it's actually my most used. Besides PPL and ASM 😁

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 36 points 19 hours ago

I have 20 years programming experience and C# is one of my favorite languages. It feels so expressive and doesn't get in your way nearly as much as Java does. I feel like I'm writing the code I want to write instead of writing the code someone from 30 years ago with a fetish for boilerplate wanted me to write.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Lol, yes. I can actually get things done in c#. Even fast and also complex.

In java (which I have to use for android) it's really aweful. Sure I'm no pro, but it also sucks to have to be a pro (and dedicate most of your time to a single thing) to get shit done.

[-] mmddmm@lemm.ee 6 points 18 hours ago

Microsoft Java is one of those cases where MS got the "extend" phase so well executed that they didn't even need to finish the plan.

That said, the language is only good if you insist on using either it or Java. And the ecosystem around it is really, really bad.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

You can't really kill a programming language though

Companies are going to continue using it just because it's what they used before

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[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 day ago

C# is better than java just because it doesn't have as much brain rotting "DesIgN PaTTeRnS" gurus

[-] mmddmm@lemm.ee 5 points 18 hours ago

Instead you get rotten-brained dependency injection rules.

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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 95 points 1 day ago

I've actually found C# quite pleasant to develop with, so long as I didn't have to worry about targeting non-Windows platforms.

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 45 points 1 day ago

It's fully cross platform with .NET Core and later.

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

What does fully cross platform mean? It sounds very vague and a lot like an exaggeration.

[-] wiezy_lrwi@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

The sdk and runtime are available on all operating systems. I have used nvim on Ubuntu (wsl) to write and execute C#.

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

See all Operating Systems is a steep claim, that is how I originally misunderstood the meaning of fully cross platform.

I'm relatively certain that it won't run on DOS or an Arduino, thereby instantly disproving the 'all operating systems'.

[-] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Is there anything out there that’s that literal?

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 10 points 17 hours ago

The standard .NET C# compiler and CLI run on and build for Windows, MacOS, and Linux. You can run your ASP.NET webapps in a Linux docker container, or write console apps and run them on Linux, it doesn't matter anymore. As a .NET dev I have literally no reason to ever touch Windows, unless I'm touching legacy code from before .NET Core or building a Windows-exclusive app using a Windows app framework.

[-] Rookeh@startrek.website 4 points 16 hours ago

Well, I'm currently writing a service and frontend, both in C# (Blazor for the UI), and using docker-compose to build and deploy them to a Raspberry Pi running Linux. So not only cross-platform, but cross-architecture as well.

This is not a new thing either. Since .NET Core was released almost 10 years ago, it has supported cross platform development.

[-] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe 2 points 14 hours ago

I feel the pain in your comment.

I too have been burned by "cross-platform" tooling. What I've learned is the more complex your project is, the less likely it is to have simple cross compliation.

But with that huge caveat, I'll say I've had a better time doing cross comp on dotnet than I have rust. Either of them are infinitely better than learning cmake though. That's definitely just my amateur take though. I'm sure smarter people will tell you I'm wrong.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago

It was even before through mono/xamarin

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

mono

Barf

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[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Yea this was a crosspost and also just a meme, but C# is my fav

And really cross-platform has come a LONG way...just as long as you don't need UI on Linux lolol

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago

Not really, even GUI is going strong, check Avalonia UI.

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[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Yeah C# gets a bad rap. I spent a decade developing in C++, and Java before switching to C# because of program requirements. Now I never want to go back.

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

C# development was spearheaded by Anders Hjelsberg, one of the brains behind Borland Delphi/Object Pascal.

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[-] roguelazer@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago

Poor Visual J# (literal Microsoft Java) isn't even in the picture

[-] dukatos@lemm.ee 11 points 23 hours ago

Sun killed it fast enough so almost nobody remembers.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 7 points 19 hours ago

I'd argue we aborted before it could be born into mainstream

[-] AnotherPenguin@programming.dev 27 points 1 day ago

So javascript is wario?

[-] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Who would be Waluigi?

[-] VivianRixia@piefed.social 14 points 23 hours ago

TypeScript?

It is Microsoft JavaScript.

[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 6 points 22 hours ago

TypeScript is actually pretty nice, it'd be JScript instead.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah but it's Microsoft JavaScript.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago

TypeScript is only nice compared to JavaScript. It still has most of the warts and footguns of JS, but the typing system really is badly needed.

[-] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

I always really liked JavaScript, but I’m not a software developer. I guess that’s probably the difference between me and folks who actually need to write production code with it.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

MS products used to be just Word, Excel, etc. I used to know the name of the guy who instituted adding "Microsoft" to all the names. I think he was a VP.

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