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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Let me apologize first. I'm both old and new to Linux and have made a ton of noob moves since switching back. I know most people in this community are probably already Linux users, but I'm hoping that some Linux-curious people will stumble upon this.

Lets start with the game. I am a former League of Legends addict. Embarrassing, I know, but I had been playing since the glory days (I started right at the beginning of season 2). I never ranked; I would play ARAM and URF to either pass time or keep myself awake if I felt drowsy. I was good, too. Not great, but more often than not I'd go 16/2/12 or something similar. It released massive amounts of dopamine for me. The ARAM bridge felt like a home away from home.

Moving on from League... I had been starting to smell Microsoft's shit from a long loooong ways away. Like, Win7 days (rest in peace, XP). I had been introduced to Linux and the basics of maintaining Linux from a class I took in high school. Lets be honest, though, Linux wasn't really in a gaming state then. You could, but you would be jumping through a lot of hoops for a 50/50 chance it would be stable gameplay. Honestly, though, Microsoft's stink flows much further back than you'd think and it was already grating on me then. I was already considering the move.

I sat on Win10 for a while and even opened my PC to the Win11 beta. It was okay, I didn't auto-hate it like most because a lot of the Windows UI I used was third party and I changed theme colors through the registry. There were ways to remove bloat and most Microsoft snooping garb, but it took work. Thinking I knew what I was doing, I messed with the system32 folder. If this were the Win7 days, I probably would have known what I was doing. I simply wanted to change the internal image viewer to a 3rd party viewer. Microsoft gave default selections for a lot of things, but changing photo gallery was a fight for some reason.

Needless to say, I messed up. No default apps would open anymore. Couldn't even get calculator running. So I reinstalled. Back then, you still had to use Win10 and update to 11. I reinstalled, saw my windows old folder, knew everything was safe, and updated. Huge mistake. Win11 was not just an update, even if you start it from the update panel. It's a full OS install. My ignorant self thought it was just a Win10 glow up. My windows old folder got overwritten by an empty windows old folder.

After a whole day of recovery process I probably recovered 99% of my files, but my time with Windows was quickly closing. My friend pointed out that this was a good time to try Linux. Steam Deck had just launched and Linux was gaining ground in the gaming scene and FAST. So I backed everything up to external (which I should have done earlier, smfh) and grabbed the most likely candidate, Pop!_OS. Soon after, at my friend's pestering, I switched to Arch- Manjaro- and then later EndeavourOS.

I messed up EndeavourOS by using topgrade. It didn't occur to me that it was user error, and I just thought it was something EOS didn't rub shoulders well with in my system. So back to Manjaro. Then D4 came out. Another shame of mine. I'm a huge Diablo 2 fan and played my fair share of D3. I got the early access. Couldn't play. Panicking, I reinstalled Windows 11... just to find that the game was pure garbage. I played for a bit, hoping things would improve but.... Blizzard got me again. But I was not moving back. I had moved so much already. Funny thing is: Proton came out with an update not even 24 hours later that fixed D4... Doh.

During my second time on Win11, Riot pushed out their knuckleheaded kernel-level anticheat. I wasn't worried, I was on Win11, w/e. Then Microsoft dropped some big shits on Windows. Snapshots of your screens ("it'll be held in a private encrypted partition of you drive!", yeah fucking right... pull the other one), ads in the start bar, and then pushy af popups to integrate your system with their AI. I was insulted. Win11 was already one giant piece of malicious software even before all this. Granted, I used startallback so I didn't get the ads, but it was the idea of the thing.

So I did it. I dropped League and moved to base Arch. I will not let Microsoft have even 100gb of my drive now. I make do by playing other games, being actually productive in life, or diving into something new within Linux. I grew up. I said no. PC owners should be banding together and dropping Windows right into the garbage. Screw their proprietary plugins, screw their insecure kernel access, screw their ads and data-harvesting AI, and screw their sneaky photos of my screen. I knew when they backpedaled on that screenshot shit that they'd push it more quietly later. I told everyone that they would. And they did.

Dive into VSCodium, or Neovim, or VIM, or emacs. Explore open source and, like me, find that most apps are pleasantly better than their commercial counterparts. Play with your terminal. Wreck things and reinstall (just hard copy everything to external first). Lets make ODF industry standard, like it should have been before Microsoft outbid and muscled docx in. It may take ten, twenty, fifty years but fuck it. I'm all in and my bet is on Linux. My next big project for my next PC build? Gentoo (I am not quite ready for Linux from Scatch, lmao). Its time I actually learned more. I've already dived deep into the Arch Wiki and I've already dived into NixOS and nixlang. We need to go deeper now.

Linux is easier than ever now. Experiment with it! Scared to fully make the move? Grab a small SSD to test it out safely! Just... know what you're doing with partitions before you do. Either that or take your main SSD out before installing. However, most Linux distros let you use them right from the USB stick to check them out. Just ignore the installer and play around a bit. Remember that USB is going to be substantially slower, so don't make your decision off of speed. You'd be surprised at how much faster Linux can be.

tl;dr: Switch to Linux and stop giving out your data for free. Ad analytics should be a choice, and one you're paid to do. Your information is incredibly valuable and so is your privacy. If you pay for a product, that company should NOT be triple dipping and making more money off of you, no matter how non-invasive it is. Its all invasive, even if its hidden.

PS: I won't mention mac here. I really have no experience in iOS or macOS. Apple garden is Apple garden and that's about all I know. Microsoft and I go way back (Windows 3.14), and I've watched them slowly and then quickly corrupt over time. Like a turd rolling downhill and collecting garbage.

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[-] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

For me it was Destiny 2. I genuinely enjoy the moment to moment gameplay, and no other game has really matched it for me. The story and characters were engaging enough, even at the games lows, that I wanted to see the saga through to the end. I did week one of the raid for “The Final Shape” and then I booted into my Linux install and have not booted windows since. I’m about to fully wipe that drive and reuse it in a different Linux machine. My desire to quit windows, and my acute awareness of how much of my life and money I had put into Destiny over the last decade or so, made the switch honestly pretty easy.

I still game a good amount, but it’s much more intentional, and I don’t play any live service games which frees up money I don’t feel guilty putting toward indie games.

I quit League in 2019 when I finally built my own PC. I refused to put any games from Riot on the new computer. I played enough of the game to enjoy following the competitive scene to this day, and every now and then I get the desire to play. I’d really only do it with premade scrims of people I know.

I’ve recently found a gaming cafe in my city I might go to a few times a month to play a couple of those games I either can’t or refuse to install on my Linux machine.

[-] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

You and me both with League; the day they forced Kernel level Anti-Cheat was the day I killed my dualboot setup. I can't get into Dota, so it's the end of an era for me, but I'll survive it. LoL was getting worse and worse anyway... quietly sobs

It was made a little bit easier for me since I was maining Linux on all my other machines already anyway, but I feel your pain. I never ranked either, but usually played with international friends (horrible, horrible ping). I still keep up with them, but for the most part, they were the kind of friendships that were relying heavily on LoL. Honestly though, I've been happier since I quit. Now my gaming PC is 100% Linux, and I don't feel guilty everytime I sit down for a game.

[-] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

I stopped playing league for the same reason, i was well into ranked since s2 but since the kernel.level anticheat was rolled out i uninstalled.

It took a while since i still followed development/updates and esports buti also stopped caring about that nowadays.

[-] swizzkillz@lemm.ee 7 points 16 hours ago

I finally made the switch on my gaming rig 2 weeks ago. I'm just done with windows. Its been fun setting up and getting it to work. I mostly play story driven games and rpgs. I have bnet installed through lutris to play diablo and Starcraft. I'm good. I think i may grab an amd gpu since ive been reading they work better than Nvidia. My Nvidia 5070 is working just fine though. I'm on PopOS.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Pop will make sure you're nice and comfortable. Its in the top two for great starter distros alongside Mint. Both will take care of you and your driver/dependency needs, regardless of GPU.

Honestly, unless you have any real problems running Nvidia, I'd say upgrading now would be a waste. Unless you need more vram for something like localhosting large AI LLMs. Nvidia is getting better at just being supported and stable out of the box, even on Wayland.

Definitely something to keep in mind when you actually need an upgrade, though. AMD and Linux just pair well without any extra steps, like coffee and cream.

But Nvidia is as easy as selecting proprietary drivers on install these days and has very little issues. At least not enough issues to warrant upgrading such a newer card. I'd just save the cash up for the next big AMD release.

[-] pulido@lemmings.world 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Addiction is extremely dangerous and you can end up wasting years of your life on something that really isn't that important to you.

It's sad how many people in my generation encourage others to become addicted to things like video games.

Games like league reward people who put more time into them while punishing those who put in less. It's particularly exploitative because it encourages us to spend as much time in the game as possible so we're as good as we can be when we're playing with our friends. It genuinely feels good to be good at the game because that transfers to wins for your team and respect from your peers.

More people playing competitive games need to realize the tricks at play to get them addicted as long as possible. I avoid games like that with other people because I know firsthand how detrimental they can be to my psyche.

I recommend playing co-op games instead. Focus on working together against the computer instead of fighting each other. That way there are challenges you can eventually beat, rather than fighting players who always put more time into the game than you.

I'm a Linux Pirate. It's possible to play co-op games online for free with programs such as Sunshine+Moonlight for streaming, emulators with netplay, and you can even play any LAN game online using something like Hamachi.

[-] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

I use Tailscale instead of hamachi these days. I find it way better. Used to use hamachi in the early days of Minecraft multiplayer, was always so jank and maybe it’s gotten better, but Tailscale has the added bonus of letting me easily share other services with the people I host servers for.

[-] yggstyle@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Came in expecting league: was not disappointed. Welcome fam- Never a better time to join the club.

I dropped it for similar reasons... initially I got tired of fighting with devs over false flags on vm usage. Never lost a case but it seriously was just the stupidest hoop to jump through.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's kind of fascinating: the Steam Deck is the only device I can think of with a "halo effect" that doesn't involve giving a company more money: the ecosystem it pulls you into is an open one, and you don't even have to have purchased a Deck to jump in based on the idea alone.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the Steam Deck launched at a loss to the company, with the business model that the income would come from the influx of Steam users buying games. It was a very well executed business plan that was fair to all involved. I just don't want to see what happens when Gabe is no longer president of the company...

[-] theblips@lemm.ee 7 points 21 hours ago

League was the reason I stalled so long, too, but honestly, Riot is just as bad as Microsoft. Vanguard is unacceptable and we should make our voices heard by not playing their games anymore. There are so many great games running just fine on Linux, nowadays I don't even feel like I'm restricted at all

[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Going to do the same with Warzone in 3...2...

Thank you for the last bit of inspiration I needed.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

My game of choice is CS2, so it didn't factor into my switch at all, but as someone who's been on EndeavourOS for a little over a week now, I have no regrets. Join uuuuus.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

It has been one of the best choices I've made. The itch to play does go away after a while once you break the routine.

[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

I have a couple of "pandemic friends" I play with once a week. The problem is that just because of that I have one shitty game (because of the propaganda and the actual quality of the game) from a shitty company taking up 200 GB of space on my SSD and they keep me on the only Slack I use outside of work.

Yeah, I think it's time. I am an indie game patient Steam player otherwise anyway.

[-] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe check out a local internet or gaming cafe for those periodic sessions? I just found one near me I’m considering going to a few times a month for the “slop” games. There’s a couple I still get the urge to play now and then.

[-] Bonje@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago
[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Thank you. It only took 18 years to come back to it, lol. But Linux fascinates me, tbh. It felt really strange at first, but after about a year it feels like home.

[-] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

I'm in a similar position with WoW, but it's tied to my friends, my guild, and I genuinely like playing it. So far I've found no rock solid way to play WoW on linux or I'd be done with Windows entirely.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

I played WoW through Lutris (and later Bottles) with minimal issues for all of classic TBC and WotLK. Basically use either platform to install and run the Battle.net client, and then use bnet to install any blizz apps like normal. I used WowUp to manage addons. WoW should not be a blocker for you.

That said, I'm thoroughly done with blizzard's shit and won't be playing wow anymore.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://lutris.net/games/world-of-warcraft/

Wow is one of the more community-supported games. I had battlenet and D3 working just fine. Grab Lutris and follow these instructions, you should be good. There are a lot of guides that show you how to get addons working, as well.

It runs just as fine as on Windows. Last I heard, the only thing that doesn't work is raytracing. So unless that's a deal-breaker for you, you should have no trouble running it.

[-] Hafler@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago

I installed lutris on bazzite without any problems. Curseforge runs as an appimage. It was incredibly easy and I'm getting great performance.

I think the only issue I had was mouse passthrough, which was just a checkbox in the wine config.

[-] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Thanks man, I'll look into it! Last I looked there are a few broken bits but it might be ironed out by now.

[-] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have played wow on linux since vanilla. Maybe we can help you? These days you can just open lutris and type battle.net and hit install. honestly it is dead simple and my FPS i better in linux than the same hardware in windows.

[edit]And now I see this was already answered. By bad. Long day today...

[-] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago

Is there a specific gaming distro this works best for? I've heard Bazzite thrown around, but then Mint would be the easier transition? Does Lutris run in the window manager like KDE plasma?

I think the problem for me is knowing just enough to know I don't know shit about how to do this 😅

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

IMO bazzite is too focused on gaming for people to be daily driving it for everything, but hey whatever works. Just hope they're not upset when something breaks and the response from bazzite is "well yeah, that's not something we bother testing for".

(I have bazzite on a HTPC in my living room, and I think it's perfectly suited for that usecase)

IMO Mint, Fedora, or OpenSUSE is going to offer the more stable, user-friendly experience long term. Install Lutris through the distro's package manager, launch it, install bnet through lutris, launch it, install wow through bnet, launch it, Thrall's your uncle 😉.

Edit: to answer your other question, yes Lutris runs as an app similar to how battle.net or steam works on windows. It's just that instead of having a storefront and downloading data directly from a central "lutris" server, it's basically a bunch of community-written scripts to automate the installation and configuration of games from all sorts of places. So when you tell lutris to install bnet, it's running a script that goes and downloads it from blizzard, then locally creates a wine environment, launches the installer in that environment, you install it like on windows, and then it creates a lutris launcher entry for the bnet executable so that when you click play on it in lutris, it will automatically launch it in a wine environment each time.

And it should all work in KDE plasma, gnome, cinnamon, or whatever window manager you're using (the window manager on msft windows is called dwm and it's responsible for the same job).

[-] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Thanks for the solid explanation! I think next steps are to look up any potential trip ups with my hardware on just getting Linux running, nvidia cards, m.2 raid, external audio interface yadda yadda...

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

You can always live boot from a USB drive and try everything out that way.

[-] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

My Volt audio interface looks like the one often recommended for pro audio, I'm going to try and do a live boot drive this weekend!

[-] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago

It would probably be the most point and click on one of the gaming-centric immutable distros. I think nobara is basically a shell for gaming that just happens to have a linux kernel so that might be a good one.

I, myself, am old... And I use standard distros due to ancient muscle memory and shell scripts from the age of dinosaurs. Usually debian based. Right now I'm on PopOS for my daily driver and really digging it.

Lutris is a GUI app with normal point and click interface. So even on a 'normal' distro I think it may be like 6 clicks to get the battle.net client installed, and then inside bnet you can install wow or hearthstone (and probably the others, but I can't vouch directly) just as you did in windows.

Lutris will even give you a nice little bnet icon if you want :)

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Its good to have multiple confirmations anyway. I only know from what I've heard and seen that it works, you actually know it works from experience.

[-] Duckling5746@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago

Welcome to the dark side. Steamdeck also got me onto Linux fully around Fall 2022 and I've never looked back. Glad you're here!!

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Linux is just the gateway drug to DotA :p

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

I did try to get into DotA once, but trying to queue in for a game at early levels is a hell of a long wait. I might pick up Smite again. Though I think Smite 2 is out or coming out soon?

[-] Nemoder@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago

Have you tried Deadlock? Coming from Dota2 I found it pretty easy to get into even though it is FPS.

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[-] Renohren@lemmy.today 3 points 20 hours ago

You know, games can be great tabletop too, strategic, tactical, RPG, it's all there + you get to meet people you wouldn't have met IRL because, like online gaming, it unites people from different walks of life. Great friendships are regularly made around gaming boards and those friends don't need software to talk too. Yes I know, some games require figurine armies but you can always find someone who'll be happy to lend you an army for a game and there are whole second hand armies sold.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

As someone who started his tabletop experience with Star Wars 3.5 and moved to D&D 3.5, I agree. Its hard to find a group in my area, though.

I should try to get something going. I have the complete 3.5 D&D collection as well as a complete GURPS set.

[-] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I use neovim a lot for coding.

Over time though I discovered it had tonnes of amazing features as a prose editor too, so many powerful plugins for editing prose that blew me away.

Stuff like "warn me if I use tthe same word too much" and whatnot.

And of course telescopes fuzzy find made jumping around to edit my text way faster, and being able to bulk change stuff with a simple :%s/.../.../g feels real good.

I highly recommend folks try out nvim for this use case :3

[-] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I’m looking to leave behind the graphical Obsidian app for neovim and plugins as I already use it for most of my other text editing. What is your setup and what plugins you recommend for neovim for general use, coding, and writing?

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Neovim is my poison of choice, as well. I never thought to use it like that, though! Even though its not open source, I can't stop using Obsidian for notes and prose, unfortunately. I just like it too much. But my novels are all written through novelWriter, which is an amazing application and has a package for every distro, afaik (Fedora was the last, but it was just added 3 weeks ago).

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 6 points 1 day ago

It's not the exact same (a 1:1 replacement) but have you looked at Logseq as an alternative to Obsidian. It is open source and serves a lot of the same needs as a wiki-style editor, but may not be exactly what you need in Obsidian

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

I did. I checked out a lot of MD note takers, including Si Yuan, Logseq, and Joplin. But I always miss my plugins and CSS snippets. I think I'd have to take a look at Neovim for notes, honestly. It's insanely malleable and probably has even more plugins than Obsidian.

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[-] Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I started using linux exactly for preventing myself to install again that shitty game that league is. Honestly, with all the money I sank in it I could have bought my computer upgrades way earlier...

[-] KernelTale@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

I was disgusted by Riot adding kernel level 24/7 spyware. That was the last straw for me solidifying my decision to quit League. After a month I've installed Linux on another SSD and had so much more fun with it than in LoL. It can be a little bit frustrating but that's also why I played LoL and it's so much healthier dose of frustration. Eight months daily driving Linux, 5 months completely clean of LoL, social life improved a LOT and a question of a scholarship is now how high and not if.

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago

I get the itch every now and again but the fact that I can't just install it and play is enough to keep me away.

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[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Proud of you, chief, it's hard to do that kick the addictions

CoD remains the only reason I have Windows (LTSC, on a different drive from Mint).The day someone else makes something that's CoD Zombies but good (Sker Ritual was... Not), I'll ditch it. Until then I'm stuck enjoying the occasional custom map release that's worth a fuck and dealing with Actiblizz :(

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

That's another hard one to kick. I never played, myself, but I remember Counter-Strike was huge when I was in school. The after school CS LAN parties in the computer lab were huge. A lost era now. But before that was CoD LAN parties.

I went to them, but usually just to get the massive music libraries people had up for share. I think a friend of mine had almost 60gb in music and that was back when ~100gb HDDs were some of the largest you could get... Luckily I had frankenstein'd the first 100gb drive from my mom's old PC and put it in mine, so I managed to get it all. I think I still have the music on my old E-Machines. I should probably get it.

Whoa, I went off track down memory lane. Sorry about that, lol.

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