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[-] weew@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So what does this version of office actually do that my ancient copy of office 2003 doesn't, besides bog things down?

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We have 64 bit multi-core CPUs unconstrained by clock speeds, RAM, bus bottlenecks, instructions sets, addressing modes, registers, or storage speeds. Monitors are beyond visual resolution, graphics are pumped out at a rate of zillions and gazillions of 32 bit pixels per second. How can any software be anything less than instantaneous these days? How can this modern bloated AI-dreamt high-level sludge code be as slow as my Commodore 64 booting GEOS from a 5.25" floppy?

The mouse button shouldn't even have time to bounce up from my finger releasing it and the screen should already be loaded.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago

Companies running 10-20 year old hardware and the amount of spyware that exists nowadays gets in the way

[-] Michal@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Tons of legacy code that has to run at startup.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

And better hardware means there is no longer a requirement to optimise.

What was "if we don't make this code more efficient, it won't run on modern computers", turned into "we don't need to make this code efficient because modern computers will be able to run it"

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

You see this with video games, too, where PC games are better optimized when they're multiplatform releases that also are on one or more consoles near the end of their sales life, just because they had to make it run smoothly on hardware that was comparatively out of date.

[-] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Dynamic libraries are also time hogs

[-] SnotBubble@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

So their AI can't fix this issue?

[-] Opisek@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

Needs more vibe.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Remember the other day when Microsoft boasted that 40% of their code is written by AI?

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I switched to LibreOffice more than a decade ago and I never missed Microsoft Office 🤷‍♀️

(EDIT: I don't mean this dogmatically, there are plenty of times I have had to compromise and go back to proprietary software, but LibreOffice really has successfully replaced Microsoft Office for me - it's just as feature-rich and reliable with a similar UI. Google Sheets has a few features that I like and which aren't in LibreOffice or MS Office, but I only use that for work when I need a collaborative sheet.)

[-] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 1 day ago

Another libreoffice user here. Published a couple of academic works edited entirely on it, and no one complained about formatting errors. Things have improved a lot in the last years. We also have onlyoffice as another great alternative

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

+1 I used LibreOffice all through university, wrote dozens of papers, did class presentations, résumés, etc. Never had a problem. I use it at work too and collaborate with O365 users often.

Such an awesome piece of software. I used OnlyOffice as well, really nice if you don't need the fancier features that LibreOffice has.

[-] potemkinhr@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Wait isn't OnlyOffice more feature wise closer to MS office, and with a more similar layout? Used it shortly but realized I like the "older" non ribbon UI of LO, but I'm still relearning the old office layout.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

It's designed to be more compatible with MS' .docx formats, less weird formatting issues when converting between them. But the actual features it has is less than LibreOffice.

Two different focuses, LibreOffice is designed with more powerful features and uses the .odf file format by default.

OnlyOffice is lighter weight and designed with MS Office compatibility first and foremost, although both suites support both file formats and in my experience, both work great with either file types and for basic users, have all the features you would need.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I’m having flashbacks to Word 6 for Mac, when everyone downgraded back to Word 5.1.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Looks like you got unsaved changes....

Save as...Untitled.docx.....Very Complex Naming Convention that my company came up with.docx save!

OK what's the name of the file? Here's a random location could you rename the file once more and tell us where to save it in one drive?

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago

But now windows takes longer to boot and is too slow because ms office is always running in the background. +1 for reasons to use linux.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

I'm constantly shocked how poorly Windows 11 runs on brand new high end hardware.

My current company uses brand new $1,500 HP enterprise grade laptops and they frequently freeze up, stutter, and get really hot from basic office work.

My old Debian servers I used to have there were running butter smooth with KDE Plasma on 12 year old hardware.

[-] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 23 hours ago

All those screenshots don't get processed for free.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yeah ofc Lol.

[-] User79185@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago

It is so weird, I remember Office 97 loading very fast on Intel Pentium 3. Now suddenly it needs preloading on startup with 4-6 core PCs...

[-] polle@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

Recently installed office 2000 via bottles/wine on linux. The installation was so quick that i thought it crashed.

[-] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 day ago

It would be awesome if we could map the increase in hardware demands on popular software by each new feature, design changes, and other minor changes added over time.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I remember when I was tasked with fixing up a personal/work PC of my colleague who was our lead artist. I was a bit shocked to see WinXP there, when win10 was already the norm, and with quite a bunch of severely outdated software on it. At the time, I thought "well, at least it does the job well enough for him to be still employed". Now I understand that he was probably onto something...

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

I vaguely remember that they were already preloading the Office DLLs way back in Windows 95 or XP days.

[-] edonkey@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah I remember something similar, office quickstart I vaguely remember it being called

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

Of course it came with a toolbar back then

[-] vane@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

And this is how adding code to Word 97 for 28 years without refactoring works.

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[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago

Don't use Windows? Use Linux instead.

Just a thought.

[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Coming soon to your neck of the woods... Copilot OS! Now with no Windows, only Copilot and a shitty embedded MS Edge. Everything you know as Windows is hidden behind an enforced Microsoft account which you cannot bypass or opt-out! Oh—and don't forget—you now need a PC with 64GB DDR6789 RAM, RBG+ chipset with tiny peener cache, 2 BRAIN TRACING GPUs, SUPER SECURE BOOT, TrustClock, Lie Detector, Bio-metric reader created by NSA, and their secret time bomb tracker that will secretly ghost all your data at a moments notice and require you to purchase the subscription to ALL STAR MEGA SUPER SONIC ULTRA CLOUD DATA WAREHOUSE. Oh, but hey, at least it's software upgradable....

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Windows is actually streamed from the MS Cloud™. Only Copilot and the Word loader run locally.

[-] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 day ago

What? You live in a lower income country and doesn't have a reliable internet connection and a high spec machine? Our board of directors have a personal message for you:

spoiler


"Fuck you!"

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 day ago
[-] mukt@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Libre gives you an option to do this, or not, at the time of installation.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 day ago

Correct, but the default for many years was to just do it.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

The default depends on your storage. It has defaulted to not load on startup for me any time I've installed it to an SSD.

[-] mukt@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

I have been using LO since many years and don't have any recollection of not being asked at the installation.

Care to share some details of your experience/knowledge in the matter?

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

It's a checkbox in the installer, easy to miss. Has defaulted to off for a very long time now, basically ever since SSDs have been commonplace.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 2 days ago

Its horrendous, my work windows laptop the amount of crap just loading at startup is getting stupid.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Microsoft shouldn't have killed Wordpad. Imagine if they updated it instead with docx compatibility.

[-] potemkinhr@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

See people wouldn't need to install Word if the builtin wordpad opened Word documents. They can upsell it to you and use your data

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