146

JD Vance is a prequel guy (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 months ago by Yuritopiaposadism@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

72 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[+] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

[deleted]

[-] Thallo@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago

It's like that meme with the frogs in boiling water. Things keep getting worse, so the past looks better.

"Hey, remember when the pot was only half boiling? That was awesome! Way better than this full boil!"

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Real. I want half boil again.

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Half boil was underrated!

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Calling austerity turning the gas down, bringing us back to half boil, as a treat

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Liking Star Wars in general should be met with immediate suspicion. Andor good. First movie good. I accept people really enjoying empire even if I think it's just okay. Anyone who cares about anything else maybe isn't awful but there's an over fifty percent chance they are. I accidentally made a reddit on the andor board and the reply made my fucking blood boil:

Precisely why writers SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER respect the fan base. Tie in merchandise shouldn't be canon. That's insane. Is this canon then?

Are the Dr Pepper cans with Sebulba on them part of the deep lore of Star Wars? Cause it seems fucking everything is fair game with this bullshit franchise.

[-] Carl@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago

The thing that annoys me the most about star wars' "deep lore" is that 99% of it is the most shallow and obvious shit imaginable. Greedo was a Rodian and a Bounty Hunter - so the Rodians are an entire alien species whose culture revolves around bounty hunting. Chewbacca was Han Solo's friend and first mate - so every wookie you meet until the end of time is attached to some non-wookie by means of a life debt (which we will retroactively apply to chewie's relationship to han as well). There was occasionally something interesting mixed in there, but almost all of it was sandblasted off in order to make the franchise as smooth around the edges as possible (a process that started with that fucking cgi cartoon long before the mouse bought the franchise).

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

I read wooliepedia articles at work in a Palpatine voice as an ongoing work gag. I have have a deep sociological interest in the fans and the series as an ongoing phenomenon. The last time Sebulba is accounted for was on some planet which name escapes me signing autographs at 10:30am on a Saturday. This is accounted for and important

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

The guys in the bar trying to start a fight with Luke do have multiple death warrants across the galaxy and are not just belligerent drunks bullshitting.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

You ever become so alienated you need to use an old rascist trope to explain the process of friendship and or trauma bonding?

[-] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

The cgi cartoon is peak.

[-] Carl@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

It's mid grade slop for children.

[-] Crucible@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Synthesis: It's peak slop for children

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Mass effect 1 did that better, usually the alien squadmates are the opposite of their respective species stereotype.

load more comments (3 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

Precisely why writers SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER respect the fan base.

One of the most important things to learn as a writer. You can respect your audience, but you shouldn't ever expect them to respect you. They will always come at you with how the story "should" be, usually catered to their own specific tastes rather than anything that would actually improve the story.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

Don't give people what they want, give them something they didn't know they wanted.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Exactly how it is!

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

That's why it was actually good that Disney scrapped the extended universe, most of it was Mary Sue fanfic tier garbage anyway.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Are the Dr Pepper cans with Sebulba on them part of the deep lore of Star Wars? Cause it seems fucking everything is fair game with this bullshit franchise.

No, but I bet the stupid spherical bottles of soda they make with the labels in Star Wars writing at Disneyland probably are lol

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

The simple answer is that the Sebulba Dr. Peppers arent canon for rhe same reason that the Ghorman Massacre wasn't canon: It wasnt adopted into the universe's current canon. And the fact that the Ghormam Massacre was is inconsequential. If you caught the sly reference, you can tie it into other things you enjoy, amd if not it's just a notable massacre.

This wasn't even a pander to a fanbase demand. It was just an easter egg. I personally don't care, but if it makes somebody else feel good, whatever

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

I was okay that they ahd their cake and ate it too. If the massacre in the show was tarkin landing a ship on em I'd have been more bummed. And for anything else it's an Easter egg, but star wars fans were absolutely stoked to see tarken land his space ship on the ghormans and would have absolutely been made had it not at least been mentioned. Star Wars fans in particular have eaten too many Easter eggs and it's partially why they're mostly frothing rabid junkyard dogs

[-] dynasty@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Sequels were gas

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Gas as in farts?

load more comments (1 replies)

[+] GeneralSwitch2Boycott@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

[deleted]

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 months ago

JD Vance whispering tenderly to his couch: "I don't like sand. It's course, and rough, and irritating... and it gets everywhere."

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago

and what's not fascist you ask? straw-hat-pirates read one piece

load more comments (3 replies)

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Hot take: the prequels were better, because they portrayed the decay of liberal democracy into fascism.

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

The only good part of the sequels that the movies do shit with it but other materials dive a little better is that: after defeating fascism, if you just make ANOTHER liberal democracy, paper clip the nazis into the government and let the bourgeoisie shit over your democracy surprise surprise you have fascism again.

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Too bad they sucked in most other aspects

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

The original trilogy sucked too, TBH.

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Empire was the best but ultimately all of it is for children so it’s Glorp Shittos all the way down

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] hollowmines@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

Andor is the first decent piece of SW media since 1980.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hot take.

I frankly don't think the prequels are that bad and are at the same level of quality as the ~~sequels~~ original trilogy, precisely because the ~~sequels~~ original trilogy was just as corny and cringe. That being said, I enjoy both.

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

I agree but I'm biased because I grew up with them. I understand both positions, in fact I don't really care, in fact maybe no one should really care about treats that much

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

really channeling his inner Adorno, isn't he.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

kelly Andorno

[-] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Somehow I feel that we all already knew this without it having to be said.

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

It's not so much about whether take was correct so much as it is extremely online

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

Pretty soon they'll be asking Supreme Court nominees for their views on midichlorians.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Midiclorians are actually kinda cool. The implcation is that in universe cannibalism would infact give you super powers. They don't do anything with it but that is a fun idea.

I have seen some discourse that originally Lucas had some ideas about midiclorians being parasitic and ultimately antagonistic. It is unclear how much of that was just smoking weed with Harrison Ford or how much of that eventually got scrapped and mixed in with abandoned yhuzong-vong storylines.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Meanwhile I thought fucking a couch was the worst part hur hur hur

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I respect any comrades that are simply Done With Star Wars (there's too much of it), but I still fuck with the prequels. I like the memes and I don't let a puppet for tech billionaires ruin my enjoyment of things.