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[-] gaja@lemm.ee 107 points 2 weeks ago

Got a lot to say but I'll keep it brief-ish. Corporations love unhealthy people. They will artificially celebrate this and reinforce unhealthy lifestyles. This extends beyond weight.

Once entrapped, escape is hard. Some are passive and depressed. Some are dismissive and defensive. No matter which cycle you are in, it's unhealthy.

I think smoking is bad like I think being overweight is bad. If a doctor says alcohol is killing you, it probably is. I don't think hatred is deserved, but don't expect any validation for those choices.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Surely no coincidence that being obese is a gateway to hyperconsumerism anyway. Sugary, fatty, processed snack foods are way more profitable than healthy meals.

Walking around town is free, can't have that. Sit at this computer chair, watch advertisements and play video games instead.

Heart disease at 26? That'll be $2k/month until you die.

Get depressed, buy the meds, never leave your couch, don't fight back, you're the evolution of humanity and - most of all - you are beautiful.

[-] toadjones79@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago

I am down 50+ pounds, and have another 20 to go. This is new to me, but I absolutely agree with everything you said.

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[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The meme isn't about that, I've read stories of some doctors refusing to perform surguries to overweight people, but other doctors doing the surgery anyway.

The same way a lot of women get told stuff is just from their period by doctors.

[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 77 points 2 weeks ago

I'm a medical student and I have some direct experience with this. Sometimes, the difference between the surgeon who will do the procedure versus the surgeon that won't do the procedure is the availability of specialized facilities and equipment that they have access to. An elective surgery (i.e. not an emergency surgery) can go from routine to very high risk depending on the amount of adipose tissue the patient has.

And it's not just a matter of the fat tissue overlying the surgical site. Morbidly obese patients are much more likely to have things like sleep apnea which can make anesthesia more risky and might require more specialized equipment than a particular surgeon/hospital/anesthesiologist might have access to. The "morbid" part of "morbid obesity" also refers to the fact that people above a certain threshold of weight are much more likely to have other health conditions like heart disease that make anesthesia more risky.

[-] uselessRN@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago

This is what I came to say but wasn't smart enough to put into words. There's a lot more factors than just being overweight of why a surgery can't be performed. For a while an issue at my hospital was we were one of the few in the area that could do MRIs on larger patients. So bigger hospitals would transfer these patients to us just for an MRI because their MRI machine was too small or couldn't handle the weight.

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[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 31 points 2 weeks ago

The reason for that is that surgeons are rated based on their success percentages meaning they'll recommend against risky surgeries.

The upside of this is that surgeons aren't operating willy-nilly on people and will make a proper risk assessment. The downside is that overweight people have an inherently higher risk of complications from surgery, so some surgeons will pass.

It's not because they think these people don't need it, it's because they think it's too risky. They're usually not wrong about that, you just need to find a surgeon willing to take the risk or, if possible, reduce the risk by losing weight.

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[-] gaja@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

Look. Shitty doctors exist, but when 1/3 of the US is overweight, there are underlying issues that need addressing. I only hear horror stories when an addict, alcoholic, or overweight individual in my life is feeling insecure or defensive about a prognosis. Too many people deflect and it's enabling a much larger issues. Our basic instincts are being exploited.

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

I can't blame doctors for letting obesity color their opinion. Look around your doctor's waiting room. Everyone is fat. Imagine the suffering and illness they see daily due to fat. How can those observations not color their general attitude?

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[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

I've had almost exclusively military doctors for nearly two decades, and I can tell you they aren't trying to respect your feelings (not that they're dicks). If your tests come back with high cholesterol, they aren't jumping to Lipitor or some shit, they'll refer you to a nutritionist and tell you to exercise more. They have no problems telling you that your health troubles come from that weight crushing your organs and joints.

And that's as a person in the military, who has to maintain a certain level if fitness to keep my job.

[-] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 weeks ago

quality rage bait ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not rage baiting, its a shitpost, in the community for shitposts.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

You sound distressed, you should lose some weight.

[-] janus2@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago

shoutout to my current PCP for actually listening to my symptoms and (most importantly) when they started/worsened and treating them and/or the cause while also reminding me I still need to keep working on my weight

gonna miss her when I move towns :[

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Also if they're dentists (suddenly teeth become "bones to smile with").

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago

You're going to need a root canal, not because its the best procedure for the job, but because its more expensive.

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[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Or a mentally troubled patient. Or a black patient. Or a woman.

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[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago

What part of the Hippocratic Oath does this refer to? If anything, the Oath specifies "us[ing] those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment".

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I heard Dr Mike saying the other day that as a doctor he admits prescription drugs suck. End of the day, they have serious risks vs benefit. But the one thing known to give you the benefit of drugs without the risk is lowering your weight. Like across the board it improves so many things. I don't envy doctors who know what the answer is but are told they're assholes for trying to help

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Have you tried not being fat?

reminder: shitpost

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

More like as soon as they leave medical school in my experience.

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