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[-] Dragomus@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

Frankly, I am bummed by this news.

I read the books, but seeing how it was a decade+ ago since I last went through some of them, most of it is a blur and I can forgive some of the changes in favor of smoother storytelling.

While the show brought familiarity back, and season 1 was painfully bad in almost all ways, from adapting/changing characters to lore. The show was leaps better in S2 and with S3 each episode felt very cinematic and now told a more cohesive story.

So, even though it was adapted, I was looking out for each new episode and had high spirits for a good S4.

Alas, if it is not picked up by any other studio, the "unfilmable book series" will remain that way, no one will burn their hands on it again. So, those cheering its demise, take that in consideration.

In closing, Prime definitely did not do it full justice at the starting line and it was expensive to catch up to that fact ...
But the show was treated and produced better than Rings of Power, which does get another stay and money pumped into it, a choice I rather saw turned around.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Same. I am actually kind of pissed about how much neckbeardery there was around this online because the last season was legitimately getting good and I was excited to see it through, but all of the "um akshually the dagger was crimson" shit probably killed the show.

[-] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 1 points 4 hours ago

Yep I couldn't get through the first 2 episodes of season 1. On paper it should have been great! I skip ahead to 2 and 3 thanks 😊

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Didn't read the books until recently. It was an okay show without the context of the books. The first season was slow and confusing but it seemed pretty par for the course for the YA fantasy genre.

Lot of people hating on it here for not sticking to the books, which is fine, I guess, but I'm glad shows like this are made otherwise the only shit I'd have to watch are "The Bachelor Season 405", "Generic Cooking Competition 7", and "Real Housewives of Some Random Ass Place".

[-] Ghostnigga@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I guess I'll have to watch it

[-] rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

I agree with most others in here, they ran roughshod over major character traits and plot points for no discernable reason. Wasted an episode of the first season on some random Warder.

That said, the biggest crime was the 8 or 9 out of 10 emotion and yelling in basically every scene. Wheel of Time can definitely drag on, so maybe they were trying to spice things up? Idk, it was weird.

At least this Rand fucks, though.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 7 hours ago

I mean, Rand was running a harem for half of the series

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 26 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

If you want the loyal fans to watch it, stop fucking it up! Keep the source material, and let your cooky ass writers write their own shit.

Perrin having and killing his wife?

A total cut of Gaul?

Aviendha and Elayne for... some reason?

Perrin straight up actually killing geofram bornehald? Which is a WHOLE plot point by the way.

Moraine killing the shit out of seanchan at falme definitely breaking the 3 oaths?

It goes on and on. So much questionable decision making.

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 hours ago

If you want the loyal fans to watch it, stop fucking it up! Keep the source material, and let your cooky ass writers write their own shit.

cough cough Halo

cough cough WoT

cough cough LotR

cough cough Witcher

They just can't fucking help themselves. Like incontinent tomcats, they've just gotta spray their stink all over everything, because "we can do it better."

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 7 hours ago

Perrin having and killing his wife?

I had to look this up, and am now even more pissed that it wasn't even Faile, which at least would have the benefit of a dead Faile.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah, making it Master Luhan would still have fucking sucked, but at least it wouldn't have involved fridging. Plus, it would have given Perrin the overall character development they wanted, without impacting his romantic character arc in such an incredibly destructive way.

To give the showrunners some benefit of the doubt, doing this could have gone some way to help explain Perrin's overprotectivness.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I also don't prefer her lol. I guess I should havebeen more specific.

Brando Sando commented on this. The choice was made to accelerate Perrins character development. I guess he suggested that Perrin kill Haral Luhan, but it was ultimately rejected by the writers.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago

It's like the Witcher. People aren't going to respect your OC by fucking up a recognizable name, they will just find you incompetent

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago

Glad they finally put a nail on that one. You got to stop funding projects made by people who don't even like the source material.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Bond and Dexter improved by straying from the source material (up to a point). Bourne trilogy is better for ignoring the disguise element.

But in general you are correct.

[-] anonymouse2@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago

I think to know where to deviate from source requires a thorough understanding of and appreciation for it first.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I think the Watchmen movie is the only example I can think of where deviating from the source material was actually a good thing. Even then, it was a tempered change that still captured everything else about the comic, and they didn't try to "fix" anything else.

You don't make a successful book-to-movie project that makes millions of dollars by shitting on the source material that already made millions of dollars. Hollywood writers are egotistical assholes that do not make millions of dollars. The book was successful for a reason. Don't fuck up a good thing.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Man I don't think I could disagree with a comment more. He captured nothing about the comic. He missed the point entirely.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Can you expand? I thought it was pretty much shot for shot, except the exchange of common external enemy and exclusion of pirates.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Agreed.

But how does the TV series fit into that?

[-] trk@aussie.zone 20 points 20 hours ago

I hated it from the first episode.

They had amazing material to work with, all they had to do was adapt it to TV.

A group of amateurs made an awesome Wheel Of Time episode with a budget of about $5 and an afternoon of shooting. Amazon should have just given them the money to do it.

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I’m surprised it lasted 3 seasons to be honest. I hated it.

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[-] _lilith@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

I could never get past Loial not having expressive ears. Like 90% of Ogier emotion is described by the positioning or movement of their long ass ears

[-] trk@aussie.zone 9 points 18 hours ago

Or the fact people from Two Rivers are often identified by their physical look and way they speak, but the TV series starts out with every person from their tiny isolated village being ethnically diverse.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Red Rivers peeps are darker skinned than your typical "white." Rand is specifically noted for being much fairer than normal, even with a farmer tan.

It's why they stand out from the pseudo-English that surround them.

Why would you assume otherwise and then get mad about it?

If there's an ethnicity they would resemble, it's certainly not "Anglo." Even an ambiguous "Mediterranean" doesn't explain why Rand's tan wouldn't let him blend in.

So you are right, in a way, but in a way we all know you didn't intend by "ethnically diverse"

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago

The fate of most shows nowadays. Greedy companies don’t give a shit about telling a good story or giving it a proper ending.

All they care about is number go up.

Stop giving them your money and attention.

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