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[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 77 points 7 months ago

Increasingly, America’s youth seem to view their educations as a high-stakes video game to be algorithmically juked.

Of course they do. That's because it is. The western university system has been completely subsumed by capital's interests. It's a giant profit extraction machine that promises jobs it'll never deliver on.

Occasionally research is produced.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

Occasionally research is produced.

Unfortunately even the most efficient capitalist system still produces some bugs.

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 46 points 7 months ago

Honestly going back to handwriting is the most efficient solution, they'll learn and retain at least a bit more when they have to write out the AI-generated remix of the Wikipedia page

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago

I always took/take notes by hand. lets me doodle symbolic representations and conceptual ideas. I am pretty sure it helps with retention too.

I know people can do the same with like tablets and shit, but I keep old notebooks and go through them and have those highlighting tabs.

and like, I don't have to turn on a device or charge something or try to scroll around to find what I'm looking for in these eternal loops on screens. so much of my work and life is already digital, it feels like having analog components lets me use a different part of my brain that has spare capacity to rework and analyze information or just play with it in a meditative way.

I dunno this probably all screams old man brain, but I'm like the info technical skills guy among family and friends, so my resistance to doing everything digital comes from long, deep experience of digital shit breaking or wiping at the worst time lol

[-] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

A lot of the time when I take notes, I know I'm never going to read them — but the act of writing them helps me to memorize them so I don't need to

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

Same, my cheat code to exams was to just write down 1-2 page cheat sheet with some color coding, then I'd read through it a few times while I read the actual material once or twice

[-] MizuTama@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I dunno this probably all screams old man brain, but I'm like the info technical skills guy among family and friends, so my resistance to doing everything digital comes from long, deep experience of digital shit breaking or wiping at the worst time lol

As a fellow tech, my reliance on digital stuff is due to constantly damaging/losing non-digital alternatives. Sure the digital stuff self-breaks occasionally but I find it much easier to have a paranoid number of digital backups over analogue ones.

Edit: I also have smart home stuff and other things setup locally partially out of interest and partially because some of the functionality it brings helps me cover some weaknesses caused by ADHD though

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

There's research to suggest your point but anecdotally my typing and general document editor skills basically always far exceeded my handwriting skills and the exact moment I could use a laptop to do notes my grades shot up immensely. I think it might just be processing info from auditory or visual into words. I.e., people would learn the same amount doing the same amount of notes on a computer but are just incapable of doing that. Either because they type slow or, if they type fast, they get stuck for 45 seconds on some formatting, bringing the average WPM way down and also making them lose the focus in a way that doesn't really exist in handwriting. Or they just get distracted by browsing Amazon during a boring lecture.

[-] hollowmines@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

also adds opportunities for doodling

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's an underappreciated part of pedagogy

[-] macabrett2@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

The only thing that gives me hope we'll be able to fix all of this after we defeat the losers causing it is that the Soviets were able to increase literacy from ~25% to ~90% in like 20 years. Things can improve very quickly if a concerted effort is made (as seen by life expectancy in communist countries post-revolution as well).

[-] buh@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

they should be giving kids the little red book instead mao-shining

[-] Maturin@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Finally some good news! (my grandfather was John Bluebook)

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Or you know, you could just stop the nonsense practice of homework

[-] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

Butlerian Jihad lets-fucking-go

[-] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

It never went out of style where I lived.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago
[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

All I want is a good digital Zettelkasten!

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

I've been trying and have yet to succeed. Never have I learned as much about anything as I did when I was taking paper notes and had a backpack full of binders.

[-] lilypad@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

If youre up for learning emacs, org roam kinda works like zettelkasten. Its backed by some sort of sql i think. Theres also probably other zettelkasten packages for emacs, but org mode is very powerful and is one of the best notetaking tools ive used.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

People are just being resourceful and working smarter not harder. Jobs IRL do not care how you get the answer as long as it works. Enshittification of education demanjng you do mostly busy work rather than meaningful work. IRL jobs demanding consolidation of jobs and people to do 2,3 , 5 specialties for half the price.

Fuck it. Death to Amerikkka and it's fucked up instiutions. Get your bag and get off this sinking ship.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

Lol yeah no this isn't it. You'll come out dumb as a fucking brick. Like unable to read and comprehend shit. Which is exactly what the capitalists want.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

Office jobs will rapidly become like the Chinese room thought experiment, except instead of people passing around notes with Chinese characters to emulate human interaction, it'll be English and the AI will generate it all, both the initial statements and the responses. People will be little more than a button clicker for hundreds and hundreds of AI generated "conversations" via email and documents.

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