that ship has sailed mister
that ship has sailed monsieur
I can excuse genocide, but I draw the line at bad optics!
This is what they actually believe though.
With who?? They don't care about their 'credibility' with the global south. The western states love jerking each other off.
Having their gotcha at russia and those buy european libs that still believe the EU protects people’s right.
Macron also made his point about double standards on the war in Gaza, acknowledging there was a perception the West has given a "free pass" to Israel.
Yeah that's just a perception I wouldn't worry about it just optics is all
These things are always put in the future tense. It seems like a common tactic. "So and so warns that such and such could happen". Deaths in Gaza. Climate change. Anything that's already happening, just make it future tense.
American Democracy being destroyed by Fascism is always imminent but never yet occurred. It's the Van driving towards the post gif
lol that gif is a perfect visual representation of this!
Great way to absolve blame and say "Uh, see, I told you so!" While doing nothing to address the issue at the time (or ever).
So infuriating
The climate has been on the "verge" of collapse since the 80s
"If things don't change around here, I might shit my pants."
-Man with the saggiest and stinkiest trousers you've ever seen
The US hasn't had any credibility since Vietnam at the very least. Definitely lost any good will remaining when it lied about Iraq. Who in the year of our lord 2025 annoy domino would trust the US to not do evil shit? Do libs think North Korea and Iran are going to trust anything that comes out of our mouths?
LoL could
Did you consider the real victim is the West's credibility??? No you tankies only think about yourselves.
The best way Macron could provide credibility for France would be to die
Yeah the countless lives lost isn't the real loss here...... Its your credibility
Could? Like it hadn't already happened?
The West's credibility is already this small!" cried Macron, also stating the wider world "kept playing the world's smallest violin" when he complained.
JDPON Macron but only now as a lame duck and only talk
Macron has been talking about opposing the US since Trump I.
Man maybe you should stop supporting them then
It is a good idea to flee a sinking ship
Ohhh nooo... not the credibility!!!
Credibility?
Lose?
Could?
Standing quietly by the thousands of dead civilians for years
This is a warning about what could happen, we better consider maybe doing something at some indeterminate point in the future.
well an easy out on that would've been not sending your foreign legionnaires to the ukranonazis and threatening to garrison odessa eh?
It won't, Compradors and America-lovers (the only demographic that matters to the west) will still do all the things they do, they already thought those wars were good and cool anyways
😔
Ahahahahahaaa
it’s more likely than you might think.
Summary of the article
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Macron Warns the West Could Lose Credibility Over Ukraine and Gaza Wars
Macron pointed out that if Russia could take Ukrainian territory "without any restrictions, without any constraints… what could happen in Taiwan?
Many in Asia worry of instability in the region should China attempt to forcibly “reunify” with Taiwan, China has increasingly clashed with the Philippines over competing claims in the South China Sea. Macron later answered a question posed by the BBC’s security correspondent Frank Gardner on Europe’s military role in Asia while a full-scale war was still raging on the continent. “If both the US and Europeans are unable to fix in the short term the Ukrainian situation, I think the credibility of both the US and Europeans pretending to fix any crisis in this region would be very low.”
US President Donald Trump has put increasing pressure on both Russia and Ukraine’s leaders to end the war, and has appeared to give Vladimir Putin a two-week deadline.
Macron also made his point about double standards on the war in Gaza, acknowledging there was a perception the West has given a “free pass” to Israel.
He stressed the importance of working towards a ceasefire and mutual recognition of a Palestinian state, saying: “If we abandon Gaza, if we consider there is a free pass for Israel, even if we do condemn the terrorist attacks, we kill our own credibility in the rest of the world.”
In recent weeks, European leaders have criticised Israel’s attacks for exacerbating the increasingly desperate humanitarian situation in Gaza.
He has been fiercely criticised by Israel, with the foreign ministry on Friday saying: “Instead of applying pressure on the jihadist terrorists, Macron wants to reward them with a Palestinian state.”
He touted France as an example of being friends with both the US and China while guarding its own sovereignty, and said this model could form the basis of a new alliance between Europe and Asia.
“We want to act, we want to preserve our stability and our peace and our prosperity,” he said, calling for a “positive new alliance between Europe and Asia” where they would ensure “our countries are not collateral damage of the imbalances linked to the choices made by the superpowers”.
He noted that both Europe and Asia’s challenges were increasingly intertwined, and referenced the Ukraine war again where North Korea has been aiding Russia’s efforts with thousands of its troops.
North Korea has supported Russia in its war in Ukraine by sending thousands of troops
Macron said that in the past he had objected to the Western alliance Nato having a role in Asia, “because I don’t want to be involved with someone else’s strategic rivalry”.
“But what’s happening with North Korea being present alongside Russia on European soil is a big question for all of us,” he said.
“So this is why if China doesn’t want Nato involved in South-East Asia or Asia, they should prevent clearly [North Korea] from being engaged on European soil.”
Observers agree China would likely be angered by Macron’s speech, with Dr Duchatel noting the French leader’s comments on Taiwan were “the furthest he has gone” on the issue.
Some parts of Asia may welcome Macron’s message on strategic autonomy given their anxieties about choosing between the US and China, said Andrew Small, senior fellow of the Asia-Pacific programme of Washington-based think tank GMF.
“His argument is that most of the rest of the world does not want to be stuck with this dichotomy and wants to hold together some version of global order - that’s what a number of states in Asia would agree,” he said.
Among several European and Asian states, Dr Small said, there was “genuine concern about how China will interpret a Russian victory” in Ukraine, while “the Trump administration takes a different view and is trying to make the case that there is no read across”.
He added that Macron’s mention of the recognition of a Palestinian state - on which France has been leading European efforts - was to signal “we are moving on this”.
So yeah i was a little suspicious Macaron could touch the grass even a little, but as expected the warning is about west not doing enough imperialism for him.
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