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[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago

The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.

  • Catch-22, Joseph Heller
[-] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

ELI5, If Republicans in general don't want federal control, they want de-regulation, then why they are supporting federal control of California?

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 21 points 1 week ago

They are only against federal control when it's them who are being controlled. They are fine with it happening to other people. It's how they can claim to be pro freedom out of one side of their mouth and anti-freedom with the other. Laws for thee, none for me.

[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

This is extremely important to understand. As fun as it is, we really need to move away from the gotchas. The right wing are not consistent because they do not have an ideology. They are simply reactionary.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 1 week ago

They're lying about that first part

[-] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

They want small opposition, and they like to deregulate themselves.

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

You know what? Yeah. GFY trump.

[-] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Sounds like bro wants to start the plot to the movie civil war.

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is the language from the law that would permit the President to mobilize National Guard troops in a state without its Governor's consent.

Edited to add: found the law here, it's small and easy to read: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2011-title10/html/USCODE-2011-title10-subtitleE-partII-chap1211-sec12406.htm

If it is invoked, it says:

Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States

But I parse that "shall" to mean the Governor is forced to comply.

[-] Kirp123@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

How long until he declares Martial Law?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I mean, this is technically exactly that, albeit in a much more limited scope.

The last time this was invoked was in 1965, during civil rights demonstrations in Alabama. But the Federal Government sent in the troops to protect the demonstrators from their local police.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/march-20/lbj-sends-federal-troops-to-alabama

This time it's the other way around.

[-] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Honestly one of the coolest moments in US history.

I feel like the destruction of the image of the United States is in full swing.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The image of the United States was destroyed twenty years ago. It became irreparable in 2016. What's happening now is, since Trump has destroyed all of America's diplomatic and economic leverage, we can finally be honest about what we think of you.

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[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's true. However, I'm afraid that the current regime is not only working to destroy the image of the United States, but to destroy what remains of democracy.

It seems that Drump and his henchmen will stop at nothing to establish a fascist state. I think the administration's actions as a whole point strongly in that direction.

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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

But I parse that "shall" to mean the Governor is forced to comply.

Under what penalty if the governor refuses to comply?

The constitution grants the authority for appointing national guard ("militia") officers to the state. The governor hires those officers; the governor can fire those officers and disband their units rather than accept federalization.

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[-] chosensilence@pawb.social 21 points 1 week ago

our national guard and armed forces have a decision to make: us or them. this is your time to reject fascism.

[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Many who join lean conservative. Many are trump supporters. Don't forget the numbers that voted for him and continue to support him.

It's not going to be that easy.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not really. The military is a lot more diverse than you probably realize. It's a big melting pot. So many stories of rural Americans raised in racist environments joining the military and being exposed to all kinds of people and realizing they grew up kind of fucked up.

Contrary to what the stereotype is. A lot of military people are pretty wise and worldly. Seeing different cultures and having to deal with the fallout of failed states. It's not like they're progressives or even Lefty's. But they're not MAGA or right either.

This is why they've been firing lots of officers as well. If nobody is aware, the trump government has been removing many many senior leadership in the military.

I think the move right now by the left is to build bridges for people on the right who have spent their life fearing this type of action. Need to leave open the possibility that there are people on the right who understand this isn't good. Obviously there's the trump zealots. But I bet there's a group of right wingers whose fear of government over reach supersedes support for Trump. Groups like the heritage foundation will increase not activity to suppress that mentally among them. But I think we'll start seeing them speak up if we listen.

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[-] choco_crispies@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

Welcome to the rebellion.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

So the trump administration is fully admitting that the insurrection attempting to block the certification of the Presidential election 2021 on Jan 6 was open rebellion?

[-] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Holly shit. I hadn't seen that last image you posted before. I didn't realize the Jan 6 insurrectionist brought flexcuffs. That is quite disturbing. Who the fuck were they planing to kidnap or take hostage with those flexcuffs?

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Mike Pence, and really anyone who they deemed to have offended their god-emperor and who happened to still be in the building.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

They were probably associated with the ones that built the gallows outside on the lawn. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-gallows-construction-new-video/

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Microwave dispersal cannons can be blocked by a large poster covered in aluminum foil. Just be sure to attach it to a wood stake.

Sound cannons are loud enough to work through strong ear protection, but sound waves are still air pressure pulses. You can disrupt the flow of the pulse with a solid enough curved shield.

If necessary, storm matchs have their own oxidizer. You can light it and wind won't put it out. Styrofoam and gasoline is sticky. Use that information however you want

Do not use a belt to stop blood flow. Get some proper tournequtes (I don't remember how to spell it). Slide it on, and turn it until the bleed stops. If you think it's too tight, turn it some more.

Edit: most military vehicles are diesel fueled. They are pretty thirsty, so be sure to share water with them. Right in the fuel tank is good enough.

[-] LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

microwave canons

I did not know about these, but some quick searches suggest that they pose a major threat to people's eyesight as they can boil your retina before you really feel anything when used at a low strength.

Messed up these are used at protests, fuck these fascists.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 week ago

Do not use a belt to stop blood flow. Get some proper tournequtes (I don’t remember how to spell it). Slide it on, and turn it until the bleed stops. If you think it’s too tight, turn it some more.

If you're worried about blood loss, there are some online resources for how to do first aid. I think https://www.stopthebleed.org/training/ was recommended last time this came up.

I read you need to be careful with tourniquets, because they're quite painful and if used inappropriately can cause long term damage. Used appropriately they can save a life, but you don't want them to be the first tool you reach for.

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[-] black0ut@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago

Sound cannons are actually pretty weird, in that they don't work like you'd imagine them to work. They produce sound when multiple beams of ultrasound collide with an object, so if they're pointed at you, you're the one producing the sound that hurts you. That's why they're so effective.

Some people online have done some tests, and thin cardboard appears to be the best way to stop them. Put the thin cardboard before you, and it stops most of the sound. It can be the cardboard from a poster, if you have one.

Ear protection headphones (for workshops) also help, and their effectiveness is enhanced further by wearing small earplugs inside. Active noise cancelling headphones don't help and can even be counter productive, so don't use those.

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[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The Confederacy was in a state of rebellion too. He's equated standing up to ICE, which is seemingly similar to when the Bostonians stood up to and were massacred by the British, with the Confederate's bombing of Ft. Sumter.

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Here we go. Buckle up and arm yourselves.

[-] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So is the red line crossed yet or is the goal post once again some indeterminate point in the future.

History won't tell the beginning of the Trump regime at that indeterminate point. It began when he rode down that piss yellow escalator.

[-] massacre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

" In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion." 100% illegal according to Posse Comitatus Act.

Deploying Marines, Space Force, Navy Army or Airforce in the US against the US is prohibited

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Like this administration adheres to rules.

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[-] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Right to freedoms of assembly and expression.

They need to chill.

And listen.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago

"Why won't these fascists just chill and talk things out?!?!!?"

[-] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah… not exactly their style.

[-] vala@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Can California please just withhold taxes already and put this country out of its misery?

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[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Calling it...Trump declares California to be in rebellion and suspends their votes in the electoral college and congress in the next elections.

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

So much other stuff will happen before then

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[-] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

You know if you shatter a spark plug, those little bits will 100% break a car window when thrown?

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago

They are also VERY sharp (ceramic fragments) so wear cutproof gloves

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[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Oh this ia what they want. They are chomping at designating leftists as enemies of the state.

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[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 6 points 1 week ago

Isn't this the same as saying *the government is working against the will of it's populace"

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