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submitted 2 days ago by sem@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

The Minnesota shooter apparently used data broker websites to find the home addresses of the people he shot and murdered.

Congress has had years to do something about data brokers and they've sided with the tech lobby over and over again.

Their inaction is deadly.

By Evan Greer

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[-] Auth@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Oh yeah this one is going straight in my privacy talking points folder.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is why the "nothing to hide nothing to fear" line is bullshit. You can be a model citizen and there will still be people actively trying to use your data to harm you.

Would you leave your door unlocked just because you're not hiding illegal activity in your house?

[-] HotWheelsVroom@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago

For the LOVE OF FUCKING GOD, give us a FUCKING NATIONAL REGISTRY to halt data broker abuse!

Shit like this is gonna happen when data brokers collect and ALL of your personal info WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT.

There should be a national registry that PROHIBITS data brokers from collecting our personal info.

We already have a National Do Not Call Registry that makes it so we cannot receive calls from robocallers and telemarketers, and there should be an opt-out system that makes it so data brokers CANNOT under ANY circumstances collect any info about us that can reveal our real identities. This is already a system that everyone in California is gonna get by 2026. That is NOT good enough! Expand it to the ENTIRETY of the United States and make it so everyone can opt-out!

This is gonna continue unless data broker abuse is stopped. https://www.donotdox.com/

[-] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

if one good thing can come from these senseless murders, let it be this. these services should not be allowed to operate without strict regulation.

[-] HotWheelsVroom@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The only ways you can opt-out of a data broker in the here and now is to manually go to each data broker yourself and opt-out there, or pay money for a removal service that automatically removes your info and opts you out. That is not okay at all. We should have a clear and concise way to opt-out our personal, sensitive info from data brokers, and the best way for that is to give us a national registry like we already have with the National Do Not Call Registry that prevents telemarketers and robocallers from calling us. Everyone in California is already gonna get this by 2026 with a bill that makes it easier to delete online personal data, which is known as the Delete Act. This is not good enough! We need a national registry that prohibits data brokers from collecting our info outright, under any circumstances. If there's one good thing that should come out of these murders, it should be this. These services harvest our data and then sell it to anyone willing to pay, which should outright be made 100% illegal. These services should not be allowed to operate, and quite frankly, I'd like to see a few owners of some of these data broker companies in actual jail for the shit they've done to innocent people, such as been the cause of this recent shooting. Fuck all of them.

[-] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

it took me a year of contacting every site that threw my personal info up on google and a few had to be contacted multiple times but i was able to scrub 99% of my presence on the google serps anyway with this method.

It definitely should be easier.

[-] HotWheelsVroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

I don't give a shit if the owners weren't directly involved with the shootings. It's THEIR data broker company, and so, they are equally responsible for the murders of those people. Just because they didn't actually kill anyone doesn't mean they can't still be charged. It is THEIR website, THEIR company. The owners of all of these companies that were used in the Minnesota shooting should ALL, quite frankly, be arrested and face numerous charges for indirect murder. They weren't actually involved with the murders, but they should still be treated the same way as actual criminals should be: charges, fines, and a long prison sentence.

[-] NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works 112 points 2 days ago

At least now we can be confident that a law will be passed making it illegal to sell the home addresses of members of Congress. The rest of us will still be on our own.

[-] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

any rich ppl that wanna pay up there just monotizing personal safety

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

As a settlement for the wrongful death of your parents you are entitled to 12 months of LifeLock's DataScrubâ„¢ service!

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

i get that you're joking; but i literally got a coupon for equifax's credit monitoring service when the OPM was hacked back in 2015.

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I've been fortunate enough to be offered those multiple times as well. I froze my credit with the big three agencies after the third or fourth breach. Recently learned there's apparently a fourth agency now? Cool. And there's hundreds of data broker sites...

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

same here except i didn't know that there was a 4th; what's it called?

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Apparently its called "Innovis". I tried to find a few articles but they all read like press releases or AI slop.

There is a blurb on Wikipedia fortunately:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_bureau#Consumer_reporting_agency

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innovis

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 days ago

Some people still laugh when I say that online Privacy is synonym of Security.

[-] mmhmm@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

The security community needs to understand privacy and security are the same. So many times I've heard infosec people act like they are unrelated

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 29 points 2 days ago

Exactly. it is sad that things like this have to happen. capitalism is again asking for your lives.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago
[-] scytale@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

This and surveillance pricing are good arguments against the nothing-to-hide-nothing-to-fear crowd, the next time you get into a debate with one.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Only way to remove yourself is to do it manually or pay $$$ for a removal service

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