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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 180 points 2 weeks ago

And still some people think it will be fine in 3.5 years.

[-] arschflugkoerper@feddit.org 115 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my god it’s only been half a year D:

[-] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 63 points 2 weeks ago

5 months, he was inaugurated January 20th

[-] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

Fuuuuck this is depressing

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 weeks ago

It absolutely won't be.

But it might be moving in the right direction.

Regardless, will take decades/generations to fully recover from this, if ever.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

No, you'll never recover. Your previous status was the result of a very specific set of historical circumstances (specifically the fact that you were the only major power left standing after World War 2) that aren't going to repeat. If you fall, the best you can hope for in terms of recovery is to equal the other developed countries of the world. You'll never exceed them again.

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[-] mikenurre@lemmy.world 140 points 2 weeks ago

Or another way to look at it- cutting nearly 75% of scientists. Can't have climate change if there's no one working! Watch them find some money to give to ExxonMobile to 'study' the impacts of fossil fuels. Wonder what that report will say! /s

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago

No need for the /s I fully expect that is what will happen. Also a great firewall, so yanks can't access unapproved information from over seas

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 120 points 2 weeks ago

Never played a conquest game where you stop researchers from giving your empire a tech advantage over others.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 92 points 2 weeks ago

Has an empire ever been so complicit in their own demise?

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe Pol Pot murdering intellectuals and people who wear glasses?

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[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe theocracies like Afghanistan. Even North Korea likes scientists.

[-] match@pawb.social 20 points 2 weeks ago

Probably all empires seed their own demise, I would guess

[-] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 20 points 2 weeks ago

But so deliberately? In what world does a half intelligent person believe this to be a good long term strategy?

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most of the US believes in this, or is just unaware. That's how its been for most of history around the world.

...The remarkable issue here is the elites/rules we handed the reigns now drink their own kool-aid. The very top of most authoritarian regimes are at least cognisant of some hypocrisy, even if ideology eats them some.

The other is that people are more 'connected' than ever, but to disinformation streams. I feel like a lot of the world (especially the US fancies) themselves as super smart on shit they know nothing about because of something they saw on Facebook or YouTube.

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 74 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 65 points 2 weeks ago

Speed running towards Idiocracy by 2028

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

no need to rush it, were already here.

who am I kidding, President Camacho would be way better than Trump and most DNC candidates.

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[-] Vespair@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 week ago

That's only the half of it. Look at the rest of the policies, look how they want to cut Medicare and food stamps and other safety net programs.

Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.

This is the end game the technocrats have been working towards, this is how they're enacting their eugenics. They want poor people, disabled people, disadvantaged people, to die. They believe they are culling the weak members of the herd for the sake of the betterment of "their" kind (rich, white, "healthy", etc).

These policies aren't stupid or ineffective, they are cruel and insidious by design

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[-] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 weeks ago

Hey Europe and Canada, anyone still looking for a scientist that just wants to do lab work? I prefer chemistry, but am happy with micro too. Just let me interpret data, please. I'm stuck somewhere where titrations are the most complex process.

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 weeks ago

German universities are always hiring. Always. And in my experience they need just about everyone

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

If you can get out, now's the time.

If not, now's the time to buy guns and ammo.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 week ago

Deeply unserious managers of empire continue to self-cannibalize their own productivity in an effort to go even more all-in on financial capital, all while the global south is doing its best to pivot towards more favorable relations with countries like China. When the US Empire runs out of countries to exploit, and financial capital ceases to be profitable, it will have no developed industrial base nor a strong scientifically trained worker base to pull itself back up. The US is cooked, this is just speedrunning the demise of the empire in a faster and harder fashion.

The good news is that the worse this gets, the more favorable the conditions for organizing become, and the more vulnerable to revolution the state becomes. We can legitimately take advantage of this, and gain mastery over capital, rather than the inverse. We can re-industrialize, become socialist, and begin the long and difficult but necessary path towards legitimate progress. It won't be easy, but it will be doable.

[-] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 weeks ago

A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 48 points 2 weeks ago

Brain drain is a difficult downward spiral to break out of once it starts.

[-] verdare@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago

This is something I think a lot of people don’t realize; It’s a cascading failure. It’s not just that some competent people will leave the country. The rest of their teams will have to bear the extra burden and be demoralized. They will then feel compelled to leave as well.

It’s happened numerous times in both the public and private sectors. Now they’re deliberately trying to do this shit on a national scale. If we ever recover from this, it’s going to take decades…

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago

As non-american I'm becoming increasingly convinced republicans are actually lead by traitors wanting to destroy the US.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 40 points 2 weeks ago

This is a huge opportunity for countries who always played second fiddle in science and tech.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 weeks ago

Critical support for Trump's struggle against US cultural and scientific imperialism.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say we had a good run but we really didn't.

[-] uSSRI@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

Rest in piss USA, smoke em if ya got em

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 weeks ago

The country built on brain drain, assumes it is great without the brain.

I hope the scientist find favorable places that value science.

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[-] khannie@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Welcome to Europe, researchers!

Lots of great choices and don't worry, you can move to France without knowing French or Denmark without knowing Danish!

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[-] KingCake_Baby@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

The times, they are a'changing

Death to IMPERIALISM

Death to CAPITALISM

Death to FASCISM

Death to MAGA

[-] Zezzoz@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Europe will welcome them with open arms.

People starts to realize that having a higher wage in the US doesn't translate into a better quality of life.

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[-] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 24 points 2 weeks ago

A country for REAL (white Christian male) Americans.

When are you people going to get the message. It was never a country that was about equality. It was about enrichment for a select group of people. When their privilege was threatened, the veil came off.

None of this changes until the rest of America decides enough is enough. That might never happen. If it does, it won't be for years or decades.

The US died on Jan 20th, 2025.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 23 points 1 week ago

Wait, the bottom ones are PreK-12 students.

How are they planning to reduce the number of children?

Is this why they hired RFK?

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[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

anecdotally, I know people finishing their phds that have jobs lined up elsewhere in the world because there are no federal science job openings

the brain drain is real and self-imposed

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[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Making everywhere else, great again.

[-] segfault11@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

we'll just get chatgpt to invent new science for us

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[-] rirus@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why a quarter, isn't it more then a third? Edit: Sorry, i misread it that they would want to get rid of a quarter of their people and omitted the million.

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