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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago

Huge correlation with AIPAC being their top donors, fyi.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 2 weeks ago

Find me a politician on the US national stage who isn't funded by AIPAC.

Massie doesn't count.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago

Ilhan Omar, Bernie Sanders, Rashida Tlaib, Summer Lee, AOC (though she's compromised with the party leadership on Israel's genocide to an abhorrent degree nonetheless), Ayanna Presley, Cory Bush (successfully primaried over it) and Jamaal Bowman (ditto), and everyone else not listed here.

They're a small minority for sure, but they exist and pretending otherwise just feeds into the manipulative establishment "electability" narrative that they use to poison the public against progressive candidates.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

I find it incredibly ironic and enlightening that the one Jewish congressperson I can name off the top of my head is on this list.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

What do you mean national stage? Because I can think of at least a handful.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

For example, there is a New York state congress versus the US Federal Congress, they probably meant a distinction there because obviously state congressmen won't get very much PAC money.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean someone who's actually been featured in national news, and would be known across the country.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

the last they want is non-aligned democrat to israel.

[-] Botunda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

And that right there is the the key! Is Sirius about serving their corporate masters and their deep pockets

[-] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 weeks ago

Why the fuck is schumer still in office?! Hes the very definition of a dickless, useless democrat. Fuck that guy, just get lost useless boomer, let someone who gives a shit take the seat.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

AOC will probably primary him. Schumer is at something like a 2 decade low in approval while AOC polls much higher state-wide.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago

money. same as the rest who vote pro-fascist

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

He's WORSE than useless. Not only is he a Manchin level shill for fossil fuel interests, he's said that his job is to "keep the left Pro Israel", a statement so blatant that he'd call out anyone ascribing that sentiment to him for using the antisemitic "dual loyalty" trope.

There's literally REPUBLICANS in Congress right now that are less awful than he is! Imagine that: the Senate leader of what the Dem leadership pretends to be the Left being worse than some actual fascists 🤬

[-] ReiRose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Senators Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, and Rand Paul of Kentucky voted against the BBB, for example

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[-] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Schumer is not the worse one, he's trying to endorse Mamdani without using the word endorsement to not upset his donors: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5368933-schumer-jeffries-mamdani-nyc/

Comparing the mild cynism with the backstabbing idiots that are going to implode the Democratic Party puts him on "just a bit shitty" list in this case.

[-] ReiRose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck his donors. He should run with the money and endorse Mamdani if he's such a good person

[-] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Who said anything about good person? He made it to lead senator of an unholy big tent coalition of a party. Of course he is a spinless butt kisser. Which is still better than a hypocritical backstabber.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago

Did those politicians say "vote blue no matter who" or was that people online in an effort to avoid gestures broadly?

Genuine question, they've always been massive disappointments who would benefit from that.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I specifically said "vote blue no matter who", because while yes, there are Establishment Democrats that exist, Extermination Republicans are quite objectively fucking worse.

Because if Fascist 47 wasn't in office, we could at least try to get shit done, instead of putting out 17+ daily fires.

[-] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Rebrand: Vote Blue, because what else can you do?

[-] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean it might work with Luigi pic in the background. But we all know that won't happen.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

A lot actually but that would require people to get politically educated and we all know how well that has worked out.

[-] ReiRose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

And leave the house

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[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

So what were we doing for the last 50 years?

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Fascist 47 hasn't been the president that long, and anyone with a brain knew he would tear this country down.

[-] ReiRose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

How was he able to do that? How does he have so much more power than democratic presidents? Genuine question bc all my brain says is that the dem potus' don't want change. 45/47 was able to really rock the boat the wrong way, why couldn't 46 make this much change in the other direction? 44?...

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well for starters we haven't had a Democrat senate supermajority without caucus since 1979, we haven't even given them 50 since 2012-2013, and now everything is going to shit, so...

[-] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

You can't possibly be equating the current situations with anything in the past

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Not specifically, no. Though in 2020 and ‘24 they were definitely on about party unity

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Anyone who has ever used that phrase un-ironically is politically tone deaf, or a Republican agent. I get the sentiment, and even agree with it, but it doesn't communicate what people who use it think it does. The kind of people who use that phrase are the ones I blame most for gestures broadly.

[-] deddit@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Okay, just hear me out for a second.... I completely agree they should endorse him, but rather than just saying they are irreverent (though this may actually be the case) I would like to know in clear and concise terms WHY they are waiting/failing to endorse the man whom was chosen by the people. I think knowing why they won't endorse him is very relevant to the discussion. Eith

TLDR; their silence is very telling.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know about the rest of them, though I certainly have my suspicions, but with gillibrand it's very clearly just racism. That interview she gave was extremely telling.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's rich people. The reason is rich people.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They've given interviews. According to them, Mamdani hasn't yet proven his viability among the general population, he only won a primary where 15% of the DNC participated with a plurality vote of 43%. Furthermore, some of them represent districts that hardlined against Mamdani such as neighborhoods in the southeastern part of Brooklyn. Mamdani won Brooklyn overall but the difference between neighborhoods he won and lost were very stark.

I agree with you, though, that they should endorse Mamdani. Any concerns about his type of socialism can be easily quelled with Mamdani's clear opposition to "communist countries".

Not endorsing Mamdani is just asking to split the vote and give Republicans the chance to fuck everything up.

[-] ReiRose@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I don't like 'viability among gen pop'. It's like assessing his electability. Doesn't matter, he was chosen in a democratic primary vote. He's the democratic candidate for mayor. If they expect us to fall in line and vote blue, they need to fall in line and endorse blue.

Rich fucks

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[-] pretzelz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Just looked up the bright blue square on Brooklyn - it's Borough Park: "home to one of the largest Orthodox Jewish communities outside Israel, with one of the largest concentrations of Jews in the United States"

Hmm! I don't think it's his policies they are against...

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it should come as no surprise, he's very openly pro-palestine and during the primaries the media framed a perfect picture of Mamdani for Palestine and Cuomo for Israel.

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Thankfully they self-identify as those who need to be replaced

Saves a little time

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

If you primary these establishment fucks out you don't have this problem.

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is one of those situations where not certifying the guy and just getting out of the way is an absolutely terrible idea if you enjoy your position. He got young voters out. The same people who are pretty decent at getting out and organizing for protests and with the way things are going these fish may grow teeth. Maybe not sharks, though no one messes with piranhas all the same.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

18-25 has always, and will always be, the demographic with the lowest voter turnout. By a significant margin. Nearly every election, people seem to get this idea that "This time it will be different! The youth are really fired up this time! It's important, so I'm sure they'll turn out!" And then the election happens and they never even break 50%.

It's not a messaging problem, or an outreach problem. There is essentially nothing that can change it. The issue is, and say it with me; 18-25 has always, and will always be, the demographic with the lowest voter turnout.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

Hopefully they all become irrelevant sooner or later.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

With the current political climate USA is in, it might weaken him to get endorsements from the establishment.

Their masks are coming off. Voting in line with republicans and being vocal against anything progressive.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was thinking the other day after NPR mentioned Elon's recent spat that he could fund other candidates in mid terms. If he endorsed Democrats that might do more harm than good lol.

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[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Adams is still their pick, even if he's (I). They just put Cuomo up under (D) to try to beat the leftist since Adams is now shamed.

Trust me, the Dem establishment is just fine with Adams as mayor of NYC.

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[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

Add them to the list.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

No surprises on that list tbh

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