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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 68 points 1 week ago

Just to be clear because everybody seems to be missing this point.

Palestinian Action, is an organisation. Membership of that group is banned, it is not illegal to support Palestinians or to call out Israel's genocide. The government doesn't like it when you do, but it's not actually illegal for you to do it.

This organisation broke into a UK air force base in order to protest. They are not being charged because they protested, they're being charged for breaking in and damaging a lot of military equipment. I think it's a bit far to call them terrorists, but you can sort of see the government's point, if you squint.

The UK government does however absolutely deserve to get it in the neck for their support of Israel. Labour have had a pretty awkward relationship with Israel in particular and anti-Semitism in general for a long time, and they're now keen to be seen as supporters, but there are limits.

[-] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Thank you for this clarification. This is an extremely important context. "Palestine Action" is the particular name of a very specific organization, so the title of the article is obviously a bit misleading.

Still very worrying and more than a bit concerning, though. Here's to hoping for a future strengthening of UK speech laws. Though, frankly, I'm not so sure about US speech laws anymore. Cheers.

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[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 week ago

Codifying your genocide support into law. Nice.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If there is ever justice for Palestine the trials will be short. These bastards are so proud of their support for genocide.

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

Nonviolent direct action has earned them the label "terrorists."

[-] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"The closer the collapse of the Empire, the crazier its laws are."

~~Marcus Tullius Cicero~~ Someone

[-] Quik@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago

Grrrrr, he very likely didn't say that.

The closest to it I could find is “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws” by Tacitus (The Annals of Imperial Rome).

Cicero lived at the end of the republic, his problem wasn't too many laws...

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[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

When the sentence is the same for non-violent protest and for actual terrorism, don't be surprised if things get more extreme quickly.

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

Just more newspeak, like Trump calling everything he posts online "truths" while being nothing but lie after lie.

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 8 points 1 week ago

The Ministry of Truth -> MiniTrue

Truth Social -> 💩💨

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The harder they push their pro-Israel agenda, the more anti-Israel everyone is going to get.

You can't bully us into supporting a genocidal regime.

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

My fucking brain is so fried.

Both my parents were in World War II. They fought against fascism. I was brought up to feel for what happened to the Jews during that war. Now all I see is that they seem to be being worse than the actual Nazis.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago

Israel =/= the “Jews”.

Israel’s founders were actually very prejudiced against Jews that survived the holocaust. And much more against the ones that didn’t actually…

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Louder for the people in the back!

Zionists = religious nationalists / colonialists / fascists

Anti-zionists = anti-all-of-the-above

The Jewish ethnic/religious part is completely irrelevant. There are many thousands of non-jews who support Israel's genocide, as evidenced by this batshit draconian illegitimate law. The UK/USA likely created Israel solely to destabilize the region and have an ally in the middle of the oil they needed. Within the next decade they then overthrew Irans democratically elected socialist leader because he wanted to expel British Petroleum and nationalise production (like Norway has been doing for decades).

If you just hate jews you're some flavor of fascist or religious nationalist, so no better than zionists or any of the criminals who created this mess.

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Do not conflate Jewish people with Israel

That is a very important distinction

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, nah.

The only people who win when you conflate Israel with all Jewish people are Zionists and Neo-Nazis.

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[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

They are doing this because Palestine Action has been incredibly effective. They have already forced the closure of two factories in England that produce arms for Israeli defense company Elbit and forced Barclays Bank to divest through sustained sabotage campaigns. No person has been hurt by their actions, yet these actions have cost the genocide supporters millions of pounds and caused months-long disruptions to the production of weapons used in ethnic clean songs around the globe (Elbit weapons are fueling not just the Palestine ethnic cleaning, but Kashmir and DRC, too).

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 week ago

Wow protestors these days will stoop to the level of wisely putting pressure on major companies supporting genocide?!?

First property damage and now this??

clutches plastic pearls

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago

Labour are class traitors.

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[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Looks like the UK is going down the American road here. It's time for all those UK citizens that said, "Rise up now!" to Americans months ago....time to rise up! Give us a great example!

Oh, you can't because you have to work for a living? How about that....

[-] mriswith@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

There is also legislation that can be used to arrest most protestors. And you can face a multi-year prison sentence if you say something wrong on social media.

The UK is actually further along the dystopian path than the USA in some ways, but as is tradition they are trying to pretend it's not happening.

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[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

UK has always had that 1984/Brazil (the movie, not the not-movie) vibe; it wasn’t all just pulled out of Orwell’s magic butt.

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[-] csverdad@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago

The most widely celebrated circumstance in the world is being rid of the British government. It’s spawned many holidays.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago

It is of course somewhat disingenuous to equate the empire to the modern British government. In much the same way that it makes no sense to say that Japan in its current form has any relation to feudal Japan.

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

checks post, 9h

sets VPN to UK

I support Palestine Action

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[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago

So the UK is now officially pro-genocide?

Good to know.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago

:gestures broadly at history:

[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 18 points 1 week ago

Bro. Great Britain is responsible for this whole mess: it’s called the Balfour Declaration.

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[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Ever heard of the East India Company?

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Haven't they always been pro genocide?

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[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago

Capitalism is genocidal. End capitalism!

I support Palestine action

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Righto chap, hop in the prison lorry then!

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[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Death Death to the IDF!

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Really? That's kinda fucked up. How did such a law actually get passed? Who assented to this shit?

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[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Crazy. I thought Palestine Action was oddly capitalized. They're a fucking group. They're an organization- I thought they were banning supporting ending a genocide, but they're shutting down a based and vandal-pilled activist group.

Uh, I've never heard of them but fuck it. I support Palestine Action. You can't just censor people or opinions out of existence. wtf

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I support Palestinian action in the UK

[-] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Look at the United Kingdom giving the United States a run for their money.

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[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago

Is it Illegal to say

"It is illegal to say...

I support Palestine Action."

?

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Flashback to...

Did you know that it's illegal to say "I want to kill the president of the United States of America"?

(couldn't get piped to load search results :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmiKenqLVAU )

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[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago
[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Surely there is a typo in the headline, only Russia, land of the washing machine CPUs, puts people in jail for words.

[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

That's good reason to remind people, that law is written by particular people, mostly to protect those people interests.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Feeding, housing and guarding someone for 14 years has got to be ridiculously expensive. All for uttering a few words.

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