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This is apparently in Columbus, Ohio -- a pretty major city by any stretch of the imagination.

And yet there are people who rail (geddit?) against 15-minute cities and efficient public transit that ensures no one ever gets stuck like this.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Columbus is special. It's a 15 minute city by car outside rush hour. But gods help you if you don't have a car. The bus comes like every hour.

I spent years there trying to convince people that it needs light rail

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Looks like you had a really good light rail system up until the late '70s?

https://allcolumbusdata.com/rail-transportation-history/

I'm assuming Judge Doom got involved at that point and paved over the lines

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hell, just needing a jump start becsuse your battery died can be a PITA if you have to rely on strangers.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

This is naiive and dumb (like a lot of posts in this community).

If you drove to the grocery store, then you almost certainly have more groceries than are going to be comfortable to carry back by hand.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

I mean if you can walk to the grocery store in a reasonable amount of time you'll be able to divide those groceries over multiple visits and not have to deal with this.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Not to mention, cargo bikes are a thing.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Not just cargo bikes. I've got a folding bike (small apartment) with two panniers and a backpack. Sure it's not car level but its pretty good for grabbing groceries.

And it should be noted, Columbus has a pretty bad food desert problem.

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[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I live next door to a grocery store, and a 2m walk from multiple green grocers. I live the walking grocery lifestyle.

But there are still situations where I have to drive to the store to pick up a large amount of supplies. Like say, when hosting a birthday party, or wanting to pick supplies up at a grocery store that doesn't have exorbitant prices.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

With the post indicating that it was a kid’s birthday, I thought the same thing. They may be buying supplies for an entire party. Walking home in summer heat carrying a cake (that should probably be refrigerated) doesn’t sound easy, but add in the kids (are they big enough to help carry things? Or are the kids so little that they need to be carried?) and the rest of the supplies the family bought, and it easily adds up. Then we have roads that aren’t designed for walking, no public transit options, and who knows how far they had to travel to get back home.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

Because everyone has so much time. I have 3 hours just to go back and forth.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

If it takes you 3 hours to walk a return trip to the grocery store, you don't just live in run-of-the-mill car-centric design, you live in an absolute barren food-desert hellscape. Which is precisely the sort of thing people in this Community advocate against.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

Define “grocery store”. If I wanted a loaf of bread and a couple of regular vegetables, I’d walk 5min down the road to the convenience store. If I wanted my weekly shop of supplies, it would be the supermarket a 15min drive away, and it would take several trips to do that by hand.

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[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

here in sweden we have also have this unique invention called a "handcart" that lets you transport more things while walking

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

There's a big difference between what's "comfortable to carry back by hand" and "what's feasible to carry to a bus stop 100 metres outside the store, and then 400 metres from where the bus drops you off to your home". That's if we're assuming a situation where you did drive to the store, planning to drive home, but an emergency means you can't drive the return leg.

But also, if you do have good public transport, it becomes much easier to adjust your schedule to more frequent, smaller shops, where it's not just feasible but easy to carry the groceries. Or in a good city for cycling, to drop the groceries in your paniers, basket, or even full-on cargo bike.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Pffft. Amateur. Everyone knows if you can't carry every bag you bought in one trip you are a failure.

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Cars (like any technology under capitalism) are meant to keep people dependent, desperate, and exploitable.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

meant to keep people dependent

As compared to what? Public transport is the definition of being dependent! There's plenty of criticism to be levied, exaggeration isn't needed.

[-] Photon@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Aren't trams, trains and bikes technology?

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I'm confused whats the alternative here? Even in Japan you'd hire a taxi if you have a full load of groceries you're not taking the train.

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Out of interest did you see the rest of the story? Looks like OOP deleted the tweet.

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[-] doctor_zoidberg@mastodon.social 2 points 1 month ago

@destructdisc As a European, I find this sad. I have a dozen stores within 10 minutes of walking and I never take my car to go shopping. Having to drive everywhere is like having a paywall for almost every activity in your life.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago
[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

aT lEaST iT'S lEsS CrOwDeD tHaN PuBlIC TrAnSpORT

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