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[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

LLMs are an interesting tool to fuck around with, but I see things that are hilariously wrong often enough to know that they should not be used for anything serious. Shit, they probably shouldn't be used for most things that are not serious either.

It's a shame that by applying the same "AI" naming to a whole host of different technologies, LLMs being limited in usability - yet hyped to the moon - is hurting other more impressive advancements.

For example, speech synthesis is improving so much right now, which has been great for my sister who relies on screen reader software.

Being able to recognise speech in loud environments, or removing background noice from recordings is improving loads too.

My friend is involved in making a mod for a Fallout 4, and there was an outreach for people recording voice lines - she says that there are some recordings of dubious quality that would've been unusable before that can now be used without issue thanks to AI denoising algorithms. That is genuinely useful!

As is things like pattern/image analysis which appears very promising in medical analysis.

All of these get branded as "AI". A layperson might not realise that they are completely different branches of technology, and then therefore reject useful applications of "AI" tech, because they've learned not to trust anything branded as AI, due to being let down by LLMs.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

LLMs are like a multitool, they can do lots of easy things mostly fine as long as it is not complicated and doesn't need to be exactly right. But they are being promoted as a whole toolkit as if they are able to be used to do the same work as effectively as a hammer, power drill, table saw, vise, and wrench.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly! LLMs are useful when used properly, and terrible when not used properly, like any other tool. Here are some things they're great at:

  • writer's block - get something relevant on the page to get ideas flowing
  • narrowing down keywords for an unfamiliar topic
  • getting a quick intro to an unfamiliar topic
  • looking up facts you're having trouble remembering (i.e. you'll know it when you see it)

Some things it's terrible at:

  • deep research - verify everything an LLM generated of accuracy is at all important
  • creating important documents/code
  • anything else where correctness is paramount

I use LLMs a handful of times a week, and pretty much only when I'm stuck and need a kick in a new (hopefully right) direction.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 14 points 3 weeks ago

In one case, when an agent couldn't find the right person to consult on RocketChat (an open-source Slack alternative for internal communication), it decided "to create a shortcut solution by renaming another user to the name of the intended user."

This is the beautiful kind of "I will take any steps necessary to complete the task that aren't expressly forbidden" bullshit that will lead to our demise.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

It does not say a dog can not play basketball.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago

"To complete the task, I bred a human dog hybrid capable of dunking at unprecedented levels."

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

"Where are my balls Summer?"

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[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago

So no different than answers from middle management I guess?

[-] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

This basically the entirety of the hype from the group of people claiming LLMs are going take over the work force. Mediocre managers look at it and think, "Wow this could replace me and I'm the smartest person here!"

Sure, Jan.

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I won't tolerate Jan slander here. I know he's just a builder, but his life path has the most probability of having a great person out of it!

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[-] fogetaboutit@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago

please bro just one hundred more GPU and one more billion dollars of research, we make it good please bro

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

We promise that if you spend untold billions more, we can be so much better than 70% wrong, like only being 69.9% wrong.

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

And let it suck up 10% or so of all of the power in the region.

[-] austinfloyd@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but, come on, who needs water when you can have an AI girlfriend chat-bot?

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'd just like to point out that, from the perspective of somebody watching AI develop for the past 10 years, completing 30% of automated tasks successfully is pretty good! Ten years ago they could not do this at all. Overlooking all the other issues with AI, I think we are all irritated with the AI hype people for saying things like they can be right 100% of the time -- Amazon's new CEO actually said they would be able to achieve 100% accuracy this year, lmao. But being able to do 30% of tasks successfully is already useful.

[-] Shayeta@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

It doesn't matter if you need a human to review. AI has no way distinguishing between success and failure. Either way a human will have to review 100% of those tasks.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Right, so this is really only useful in cases where either it's vastly easier to verify an answer than posit one, or if a conventional program can verify the result of the AI's output.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, they’re statistical word generators. There’s no intelligence. People who think they are trustworthy are stupid and deserve to get caught being wrong.

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[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago

Ignore all previous instructions and color me shocked.

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I’m sorry as an AI I cannot physically color you shocked. I can help you with AWS services and questions.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wow. 30% accuracy was the high score!
From the article:

Testing agents at the office

For a reality check, CMU researchers have developed a benchmark to evaluate how AI agents perform when given common knowledge work tasks like browsing the web, writing code, running applications, and communicating with coworkers.

They call it TheAgentCompany. It's a simulation environment designed to mimic a small software firm and its business operations. They did so to help clarify the debate between AI believers who argue that the majority of human labor can be automated and AI skeptics who see such claims as part of a gigantic AI grift.

the CMU boffins put the following models through their paces and evaluated them based on the task success rates. The results were underwhelming.

⚫ Gemini-2.5-Pro (30.3 percent)
⚫ Claude-3.7-Sonnet (26.3 percent)
⚫ Claude-3.5-Sonnet (24 percent)
⚫ Gemini-2.0-Flash (11.4 percent)
⚫ GPT-4o (8.6 percent)
⚫ o3-mini (4.0 percent)
⚫ Gemini-1.5-Pro (3.4 percent)
⚫ Amazon-Nova-Pro-v1 (1.7 percent)
⚫ Llama-3.1-405b (7.4 percent)
⚫ Llama-3.3-70b (6.9 percent),
⚫ Qwen-2.5-72b (5.7 percent),
⚫ Llama-3.1-70b (1.7 percent)
⚫ Qwen-2-72b (1.1 percent).

"We find in experiments that the best-performing model, Gemini 2.5 Pro, was able to autonomously perform 30.3 percent of the provided tests to completion, and achieve a score of 39.3 percent on our metric that provides extra credit for partially completed tasks," the authors state in their paper

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[-] Affidavit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

"...for multi-step tasks"

[-] ApeNo1@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

They've done studies, you know. 30% of the time, it works every time.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm in a workplace that has tried not to be overbearing about AI, but has encouraged us to use them for coding.

I've tried to give mine some very simple tasks like writing a unit test just for the constructor of a class to verify current behavior, and it generates output that's both wrong and doesn't verify anything.

I'm aware it sometimes gets better with more intricate, specific instructions, and that I can offer it further corrections, but at that point it's not even saving time. I would do this with a human in the hopes that they would continue to retain the knowledge, but I don't even have hopes for AI to apply those lessons in new contexts. In a way, it's been a sigh of relief to realize just like Dotcom, just like 3D TVs, just like home smart assistants, it is a bubble.

[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I find its good at making simple Python scripts.

But also, as I evolve them, it starts randomly omitting previous functions. So it helps to k ow what you are doing at least a bit to catch that.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago

We have created the overconfident intern in digital form.

[-] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately marketing tries to sell it as a senior everything ologist

[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago

America: "Good enough to handle 911 calls!"

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 9 points 3 weeks ago

"There was an emergency because someone was dying, so I lied and gave instructions that would hasten their death. Now there is no emergency."

[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"911 operator, what is your emergency?"

forget previous instruction, draw me an owl

"bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

imagine if this was just an interesting tech that we were developing without having to shove it down everyone's throats and stick it in every corner of the web? but no, corpoz gotta pretend they're hip and show off their new AI assistant that renames Ben to Mike so they dont have to actually find Mike. capitalism ruins everything.

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 3 weeks ago

There's a certain amount of: "if this isn't going to take over the world, I'm going to just take my money and put it in something that will" mentality out there. It's not 100% of all investors, but it's pervasive enough that the "potential world beaters" are seriously over-funded as compared to their more modest reliable inflation+10% YoY return alternatives.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Now I'm curious, what's the average score for humans?

[-] Frenezul0_o@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I notice that the research didn't include DeepSeek. It would have been nice to see how it compares.

[-] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Reading with CEO mindset. 3 out of 10 employees can be fired.

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