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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Ecuador’s pink tide candidate might lose tonight oh-shit

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

I’m mostly fine with religion and people believing whatever shit, but when people start using their abrahamic texts like they’re historical accounts? I got a major problem

like dog I don’t give a shit about what a book passed down and re-edited countless times says about Israel and neither should you. I care about people who are existing right now

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[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

6500 and more! lets-fucking-go

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago
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[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Every fucking comment on these "news" posts from every goddamn user on this site reads like it was written by Palestinian Propaganda Bots. Have some proof.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Border with Gaza strip allegedly just minutes ago "Israel are preparing to enter"

https://streamable.com/w15ss0

Alleged, allegedly, supposedly, maybe, getting a strong fog of war feeling from posts at the moment.

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Is this actually Jodie Dean's twitter? If so, shots fired lmao

https://twitter.com/Jodi7768

Here is a recent essay by Butler in LRB which is relevant lol: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n20/judith-butler/the-compass-of-mourning

[-] vertexarray@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

She does sail so gracefully into a sheltered little cove of morally optimal idealism

I deplore the violence unequivocally at the same time as I, like so many others, want to be part of imagining and struggling for true equality and justice in the region, the kind that would compel groups like Hamas to disappear, the occupation to end, and new forms of political freedom and justice to flourish.

Simply imagine a nonviolent struggle

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

https://twitter.com/Pontifex/status/1713542741051982090

Humanitarian law is to be respected, especially in Gaza. Please, let no more innocent blood be shed, neither in the Holy Land nor in Ukraine, nor in any other place! Enough! Wars are always a defeat, always!

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[-] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reuters - Polish PiS ahead but seen losing majority in election - exit poll

Just an exit poll, it says the lib/soc dem opposition and a lib/agrarian coalition should have enough seats to form government together. We'll see for sure on Monday or Tuesday but it's always nice to see signs that the libertarian alt-right party under performed. They got 6% in this exit poll, and were expecting 10-12%. They were basically going on TV and saying stuff like 'unlike these other politicians here, we promise you no handouts, welfare cuts and more privatization, might give you a tax break though!' lol, a very exotic campaign strategy.

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago

🚨 BREAKING: The IOF announces an approved plan to evacuate all 28 settlements within 2km of the Lebanese border, moving the settlers to guest houses elsewhere.

Well israel certainly thinks Hezbollah will fully intervene any day now lol.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

https://streamable.com/icde7w

Video of atgm attacks on Merkava tanks on the Lebanon border.

These aren't even dual fire ones, these are single missiles.

The trophy system on the Merkava is all talk, it doesn't exist, I have not seen a single trophy system on a Merkava even attempt to engage an incoming missile so far. It's literally propaganda.

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[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

reminder: number go up more do gooder

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

China discussion

I wrote this as a reply on that chain over the Xi meeting US senators headline. It was already an extremely bad look imo, now its just comical the mistiming Josep Borrell to visit China

So I'll make my arguments here again replaying to @Frank@hexbear.net since at least its worthwhile news and I think he made good points too, its worth talking about..

The world is in the process of re-aligning. The Petrodollar system may collapse. You shouldn't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. Right now avoiding direct conflict is a good strategy. America will continue to cannibalize itself and lose it's hegemonic power. China and BRICS stand to gain economic power and political status they continue to not be insane warmongers.

I even made all of these points in the past so I know these points are extremely convincing, but I wasn't aiming at such a broad take, the US senators visit is simply a mistimed rare L imo. I can't fathom what on earth the CPC was hoping to achieve here. We know the level of incompetence of the US political class, Xi literaly lectured Trudeau over his duplicity. I was under the impression he knows better than anyone too, we just had the whole Biden/Xi meeting that didn't happen too. I also understand the desire to maintain dialogue but ultimately what the US is doing here is the same thing they did in Ukraine i.e waste time while arming their ally for war, and we know because they literally admitted it(Merkel incident and others). Maybe I should give them credit but its hard to not take the CPC at face value here they really seem to think US politicians are capable of dialogue.

This also isn't happening in a vacuum either, it is a meeting happening barely 14 months after the Pelosi/Taiwan affair. How does one reasonably explain flip flopping from "this [politician] committed the greatest affront to Chinese national interests in the last 3 decades" to "we will meet with your [politicians] actually as a treat". I understand previous meetings in the context of the sanctions and a Ukraine peace deal, but this is what? "Billateral ties?"

And if that happens everyone dies, so I appreciate that they're continuing to try to keep things from decaying in to WWIII.

The entire Israeli-Palestinian conflict involves about 12 million people. The CPC is responsible for the well-being of about 1.3 billion people. It doesn't have the force-projection to invade a nuclear armed state on the far side of the world, nor as far as I know does it have any levers to effect Israeli behavior. This is way, way outside their sphere of influence and interest and as far as I know they have limited, if any, resources to influence the outcomes of a far away regional conflict.

My hope is to not just do naive criticism, I understand entirely there is a huge difference between what China can effectively actually do vs what I wish they would do. I also completely understand why Israel/Palestine is not anywhere close to a "red line" for China.

But now that I think more about it, its dangerous that China wants to have its cake and eat it. They moved to transform BRICS into this anti-imperialist bloc. Extremely cool, good and based. Uncritical support. But now that you decided to put yourself as a geopolitical player, you can't turn around and be picking and choosing your battles cynically, "oh we can support A but not B, too bad you're out of luck I guess".

It is also important to note some of nations(Iran, Egypt, Saudi and UAE) currently involved/adjacent to this are now BRICS members. This is far closer to Chinese interests than it was previously.

Global times Oct 10, 2023: China, Saudi Arabia launch joint naval special operations exercise There is literally no point in doing this if China wasn't open to the possibility of a global conflict.

China may be on the other side of the world, but their current allies/partners are not. If China refuses to take a more strongly defined stance towards these regional conflicts then the prospects of BRICS as anything remotely effective against western imperialism look grim.

On pragmatism, it is undeniable China "lost" out over the Pelosi fiasco about "red lines". Yes nothing happened and pragmatism won the day, humanity can have a sigh of relief. Of course I too prefer to not have war, but China set up a red line and the US called the bluff successfully. This is precisely what I mean by "the only solution is confrontation" not because it is our(communists) choice but the path the US continues to take against all reason. The only difference is Russia as problematic as they are with their own BS "red lines", they did actually declare war, in the Pelosi/Taiwan case, well pragmatism for now.

Finally cold calculating pragmatism isn't always the point either, the global south already talks about "climate justice" and people here are talking about decolonization based on the justice for Palestine/injustices of Israel, I mean I can't wait until the year is 2045 when vast amounts of the global south are completely uninhabitable.

This is my most biggest fear, we are doing nothing, everyone just casually hopes for common sense to prevail(those that care, others don't even give a shit), pragmatism will win the day we hope and dream. Meanwhile, war after war, crimes, injustices, inaction. Nazism is back. We don't time have until 2100, we don't have time until China is completely communist, we may not even last to 2050. I hate to say it, if we don't fight soon there may as well be nothing left to fight over.

I appreciate I may be more alarmist then others at these points but in the end if I could have even just one take, I think Xi meeting US politicians right now is an extremely bad look, callous even. I am not happy and I'm comfortable calling this a very rare CPC L. I accept it was probably an unfortunate coincidence, but nevertheless I hate it.

We'll see what comes of the Borrell meeting too, I have no expectations whatsoever but maybe something something.

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[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, that was weird and disappointing.

Still might drag Hezbollah into the war though.

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