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Gay blessings 'will remain' under Pope Leo, Vatican doctrine chief says
(www.ncronline.org)
Gay be with you.
And also with you
Let us gay.
The blessings document generated considerable conservative backlash, and some critics of the late Pope Francis had expressed hope that Pope Leo would rescind or ignore it.
Conservatives as always doing a fantasticdemonstrating why they should be chronodeported 2 millennia back.
You will be shocked to learn that gays don't need a 'blessing' or the 'church'. We are quite happy (gay!!) without any of that.
There are gay members of the catholic church who would disagree with you. This is important to them.
There are also us gays who aren't members of the church, but really wish we could be (but won't, because of gestures wildly at the church with frantic, panicked eyes)
I don't understand, why would you want to be part of a group you trust so little?
In almost every case it's because they were indoctrinated at an early age. Feels like child abuse to me, but since the vast majority of people are Christians in most countries, it's considered a-okay.
why would you want to be if you are not already? honest question
Spiritual tradition, for starters. I also feel deep connection to liturgical traditions, and there's a lot besides that I like about the RCC. I like that, generally, there's someone at the church at any given time, that the building doesn't stand empty for all but a few hours once per week. That I could go, and light a candle, and sit in contemplation, or speak with a priest. I like confession, I like a lot about the way the RCC functions. I just dislike the scandals, the bigotry, the, frankly, hatefulness that the church has proudly warn over the centuries. A big reason why I'm an Episcopalian is that it's progressive, while also being liturgical. There are more progressive churches like the MCC, but they're more congregational and remind me too much of the baptist churches I grew up in.
While it's probably not important for a lot of people, for me, having that line of demarcation between the sacred and the secular, the robes and the chalices and the incense and bells, the line that says "this is a sacred space, one for meditation, contemplation, prayer" is important. It allows me to leave behind a certain mindset and enter a new one. Regardless of our ideas behind religion and spirituality, humans have been doing ritual for thousands, and potentially millions, of years. There's a power behind it, even if it's just in our heads. Nobody in Christendom does ritual quite like the Catholics. The episcopalians are good at it, but only on Sunday morning, and as much as I love the tradition, it lacks a lot of the spiritual tradition, like intercession of saints and a Marian ideology that I also crave. Anglocatholics are pretty good for that, but they tend to be conservative and anti gay, and most of them have moved to the ACNA, a schismatic group founded against the ordination of women and gay men.
There's a lot to dislike about the RCC, and organized religion in general. I disagree with a huge chunk of it. The prohibition against marriage for priests has lead to so many problems. There's too much to list, from the way nuns are treated, the prohibitions against birth control, LGBTQ+ issues, abortion, surrogacy... There's a lot wrong with the institution. But I don't think we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. It'll never happen, but I dream of a day when there's major reform within the Church.
I just want a hyper progressive RCC with a married trans woman pope :(
Edit to add:
Feel a bit like I've misrepresented myself, so to clarify: I'm an Episcopalian, but I'm also a nondualist Advaitin (Hindu). I am not your average viewer or really anyone's target audience, so don't extrapolate my comments to the larger religious/gay community. Haha.
Being a recovering catholic, from a country that is also recovering catholic, I cannot relate to most of your post.
I respect most faiths, but denounce all organized religion, "churches" if you will.
Yeah, there's a lot of damage the church has done. I don't support the RCC. I just wish the RCC could be progressive and keep the liturgical/tradition side of things. Total pipe dream
Apart from directly catholic gays, there are also gays in very catholic countries, where their lives are influenced heavily by catholic stances no matter whether they believe or not.
Some want that and it's not your place to judge. Not to blow this out of proportion but I have to say the militant atheism on Lemmy feels like 4chan debates sometimes.
Sure but it does help with acceptance from the non-gay religious people
Sure, YOU may not need it but theres a large amount of people who this is extremely important to. It also helps with acceptance in catholic countries and communities. I'm all for being a card carrying atheist but I just don't feel like it's necessary in this situation.
Jokes on them. I don’t even want to go to heaven unless I can suck a bag of dicks on the other side of the gates.
Sucking Dick Through The Pearly Gates would be a great name for an autobiography if you want to use it
Or a good album title
Gloryhole, gloryhole, hallelujah!
Gotta get a pearl necklace to match the pearly gates!
Yeah, that sounds like hell to me!
Don't yuck u/bdjukemgood's yum
I meant it sounds like hell not being able to suck dick in heaven.
Depending on your interpretation of the Bible, you're at least minimum guaranteed marriage to Jesus. Revelations 19
But from my lay perspective there is not a passage in the Bible that says gay sex is worse than eating shellfish so do with that what you will. The thing Jesus actually mentions several times explicitly was adultery aka being unfaithful as in cheating. So as long as its consensual and your not wrecking houses.....
Gaymen 🙏
Are these like normal blessings but rainbow?
In the future, when we're transcendent tentacled robofurries doing poly in virtual space, on drugs (think Yivo from Futurama), we will look back in confusion at why so many people hate homosexuality so much. Like... don't they have other things to worry about?
Or humanity will be all dead, I guess.
And I'm talking about the mega conservatives protesting this; at least the Vatican is baby stepping and trying to minimize their cruelty.
The second part. It's the second part. Whether you consider "humanity" as all human life, or just modern civilization, is what changes this point.
"exclusive, stable, and indissoluble union between a man and a woman, naturally open to the generation of children"
If I am going to choose between imaginary symbolic gestures I rather have G̵̡͖̜̊Ã̴̩̐͂̽Y̴͖̘̤̌́ ̷̨̦͍̜́͊ Ç̷̲̺͕̅͛̌̎͠U̶̟̦͎̼̎R̴̝͚̲̭̣͛̂̕Ś̴̲̼̟͚̈̅E̶̙̩͖͐̑̿̚S̷͈̺̐͆ 😈
May your enema be forever empty, and may you have always just gained 3 pounds
I don't care what the international child r*** ring has to say about the gays.
How is this news? Magic isn't real and they still think the gays are icky, let's not imagine meaningful progress where none exists.
Perfection is the enemy of progress.
I mean, sometimes. But this is still like a... few decades behind. This is like white people not saying the n-word in public anymore. That's technically better than before, but still woefully behind. The Catholic Church is never going to be on the forefront of real progress.
Lack of progress is also an enemy of progress.
How is this news?
Because something new that plenty of people care about happened? Like, I do think it's ridiculous but there are more than a billion Catholic people out there who do care what this guy says.
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