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I think Chad's got the right attitude
Exactly, working harder than the bare minimum not to be fired will not get you rewarded.
"Take what you can, give nothing back"
it can get you rewarded, up to a point
my company reached that point. 50 people and now working all that extra doesn't get me anything else. it did when we were sub 30 people
so I backed off. if I won't be paid more for it, I'm not gonna stress myself out like that
I think it can work only in small companies. I used to work in a place that had 15 people total, and our compensation was tied directly to company revenue. Not even individual performance, company performance. And each one of us had a direct impact on it.
It was one of the healthiest job environments ever. Burnout was a risk, but even that was manageable with conscious planning.
I was so much happier working my ass off with only two dozen people at the company total than I am now with double that.
When you're a small company, everybody matters and everybody needs to be good at what they do, and it's easy to communicate and keep everybody up to date. We've reached that size where not everybody is great, and their performance (or lack thereof) affects your own work. and then it cascades from there.
“Take what you can, give nothing back”
it should be: "work hard only for ideals that you actually believe in, not for the pockets of some CEO"
This is why more places should have performance related pay. Either as performance related pay rises or bonuses. That way people like Chad can do the minimum to not get fired, then bitch and moan about how they didn't get a bonus this year.
I don't think so. What something bad happens in your life and your performance goes down naturally for a while? You shouldn't be punished for that and you might even need the money now more than ever
That's a very good point.
okay but you're thinking of it as being entitled to the bonus in the first place, which is incorrect
Of course you have to factor in does profit sharing mean that they're paying everybody less than they could, but excluding that factor, it is entirely a bonus, not a punishment
The comment that I was replying to was also taking about pay, not just bonuses.
Having worked in retail sales where a significant portion of my pay was based on performance... there are a lot of problems with performance based incentives. They inevitably get people to focus on only the one or two aspects those are based on, while everything else suffers. They almost always end up punishing individuals that have any sort of outside situation like needing to take sick time or simply taking vacation time.
If all you give a shit about is work, which is not mentally healthy in most cases, especially since were talking about employees here not business owners and partners that are invested, that works for some people. Usually those that are trying to escape their life outside work are the ones that works best for, and that says a lot.
Chances are that Chad will get promoted faster too.
I was repeatedly disappointed by the class traitors I worked with. They were like "oh we have to work this weekend to get this feature out".
Do you? Do you really? Management set this deadline. They fucked up and now it's "behind schedule". And it's a website. It's not like there's a factory sitting idle until we're done, or a family without a home until the project is finished. The impact of "now you can view your project summary and team list side by side" is nil.
When I pushed back against this, my boss I was bringing down the team's morale. He said that it doesn't hurt me if they work longer. Bullshit. They're providing the same labor I am, but they're devaluing it. They're also setting a nasty precedent.
And you know what? Almost all of us got laid off anyway, including my boss.
This is also part of why the visa stuff is bullshit. Two of the guys were afraid to make any waves because if they lost their job, they might have to leave the country. Maybe they wouldn't be so traitorous if their personal security wasn't on the line.
Now the CEO is posting memes about how high unemployment is and captioning them "lol". He's a middle eastern man that loves Musk. If ICE takes him to a camp I'm going to feel a little bad because of basic humanity, but also laugh really hard at the leopards eating his face.
Two of the guys were afraid to make any waves because if they lost their job, they might have to leave the country. Maybe they wouldn't be so traitorous if their personal security wasn't on the line.
Isn't that like, the whole point? Same as not having universal healthcare but instead tying your personal health to the whims of your employer?
I think so, but not everyone realizes and not everyone says so out loud.
And then they use your "110%" as the new 100% and expects it all the time.
I just quit a job because they lectured me for not staying later than I am scheduled. "John stayed late, and it was his birthday. It just seems like you aren't being a team player." Good for John. I'm going to keep doing what is on the job description and schedule though
Was doing an unpaid internship for my bachelors where I was told I seemed lazy for not staying as long as another intern.
I wasn't, because i was hired to work in a completely different city than where they ended up sending me, and had to commute for 3 hours to get to an unpaid job. Fuck no I'm not staying as long as the guy who commutes 10 minutes to the job site.
After telling them that I was told I wouldn't fit into the company. No fucking shit, your company is fucking shit.
I wonder, what made you quit your job? Why not stay and change exactly nothing about your behavior? You could have been an inspiration to your fellow colleagues that way, or at least not go through the hassle of looking for a new job immediately
I have another job I like better that was already asking me for more hours
that is impossible. no one can give more than 100%
if your contract says 8h work per weekday and you work for 8h 48m you gave 110%
Also redefining the 100% as 100% of what is sustainable longterm you can probably react 130% for a short burst.
I'm almost certain this is actually a quote from the Simpsons?
When Mr burns buys a baseball team and he's hypnotising them to make them better. They all monotonously chant back what ever he says, except when he says "I will give 110%" they say the line from the OP.
I can't work outside my contracted hours, its in the contract.
Oh, hi Mark S.
I always give the full 60%. In case I need to step up, I can give 66%, and be seen as a miracle worker.
Chad doesn't actually "forget" to do the job. he realizes it isn't worth his time unless he's asked about it at least twice.
I've been Chad and been asked to do millions of things by people who will even forget they asked me to do them so unless it's important enough that they follow up on it, it's not a real job.
i will usually say something in corporate speak though like "it hasn't been on my radar yet" instead of "i forgot".
No employer is gonna pay you 110% for going extra hard. All the profits from your extra work will just be enjoyed by your supervisor, helping coworkers and giving extra effort comes back to bite you in the ass eventually, whether it’s your 110% becoming expected, or being so good that any mistake you make will be seen as a big deal
There are actual good employers out there. My last one gave me a sizeable raise out of nowhere because I had been working my ass off on a project.
But the only reason I was working my ass off was because they were good employers. They operated like a startup despite being in business since the 80s.
Then Musk fucked everything up.
But even before that, at the beginning of my IT career I went from a customer service agent to senior systems engineer in 5 years because I worked hard and took on projects that no one wanted to do.
The key is knowing when to put in the work and when to put in just enough to keep your job.
This is why we should all do the minimum to keep our job and not give our best. After all when you get paid minimum wage they shouldn't expect you to work at your maximum. I remember at my job even after 2 years working there, when the minimum wage got up they didn't raise my salary but just put me at the new minimum wage because it got raised a bit higher than the salary I was making and the new employee with no experience, literally his first job ever gets paid the same as me. And it was at this moment I stopped giving it my best.
That hypnotist made Roger Clemens think he is a chicken.
But he did a good job, a good job...
Shave those sideburns!
My co-workers will cut any corner they can get away with. Then after awhile management will send an email telling everyone to knock it off. Closing hopper car ports on empty cars most recently. Then nobody does it anyways and there's no consequences. No follow up. Every single time. After awhile you figure out caring about the slide is a waste of calories and you should just chill and collect the pay until they shutdown one day from pure apathetic incompetent mismanagement.
Do enough work to secure what you want from the job, which is to not get fired. That, and a good reference for better pastures if you're still resume building, or have just moved to a new city.
Giving 110% means you're the best at that particular job. Goodluck ever seeing a promotion.
Always remember that good enough is good enough.
this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2025
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