Yeah that's fucked. If you are going to let people say "No Christians" or "No Muslims" then "No Zionists" ought to be allowed.
Zionism isn't even an actual religious belief. It is a political one. A desire for a specific outcome and policies to support it
My autistic ass is going to be nitpicky as well. Zionism deals directly with people who identify with a religion and where they ought to live. I mean it also vaguely alludes to aspects of jewish ethnicity's since zionism likely also is concerned with athiest but ethnically jewish people unless I am mistaken. There is a lot wrapped up in it.
Also religions have specific outcomes they desire as well.
Regardless, my point people should be allowed to be anti-zionist on Grindr if they can be anti-other-vaguely-equivalent-things.
that's anisemitism please ban and arrest
I mean "No Jews" is allowed so its not even that they're worried about antisemitism.
No, no, antisemitism isn't about hating jews its about hating zionist. The military industrial complex tells me so. /sarcasm/
Though thats how alot of people treat it...
Just fyi, the slash in /s or /sarcasm isn't some weird bracket, it's meant as an XML style closing tag, meaning "end of sarcasm". In full it would look as follows:
<sarcasm>Things are going great!</sarcasm>
But people drop the opening tag and the <> for convenience.
No, the / has nothing to do with xml. It's a fake IRC command.
They were all in the style of /commandname.
You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.
not all Jews are zionists
Not all Zionists are Jews. Humanity really needs to stop our imperialistic ways. Every piece of land is accounted for and to get more you have to bury the people who reside on it.
The vast majority aren't
Alternative phrases to use:
You guys are all conspiracy theorists.
What actually happened: someone who knew someone at Grindr said "man, anti-zionism is really gaining ground on Grindr, huh?" The Grindr employee said "Huh?" "Oh yeah, its like on every other profile." "Huh...."
Then a few employees chat about it, until someone mentions it to their ad exec, who says "HWAT???" The ad exec knows that the Israeli government is committing war crimes - but they also know that as soon as the right wing media picks up on this, Grindr will become the "the secret deviant app for jew-hating gay nazis", and they DO NOT want to spend their weekend handling that shit storm.
Hence the rule.
You can still say "Pro Palestine" in your bio.
I'm really confused. Do you think your theory is better?
Is "no nazis" allowed?
Corporations embrace fascism as shallowly as they did DEIA and queer acceptance, but all it takes is a couple of inches of depth to drown if you fall down and become vulnerable.... which is something the businessmen and oligarchs, distracted by the incredible gains in wealth they are accruing from the firesale of the foundations of society torn down by fascists, only perceive as a slight annoyance, an ankles deep rising of water, oh no my fancy leather dress shoes are ruined!
Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.
Jews or Israelis make a strange argument when they call someone from the US like me anti-semitic for being against Israel's actions. This is a circus people who grew up in the post 9/11 US know intimately, Israel is the modern post cold war colonialism of the US echoed into a different context.
Just because I do not intimately understand the full vibrant depth of history that forms the context that the countless weapon systems, bombs and associated training FROM MY COUNTRY are used to erase doesn't mean I do not understand the process of erasure and have an indisputable stake in maintaining my moral integrity given the moral weight falls directly on my country for providing the machinery for erasure.
Scholars writing about this time will draw a direct throughline from US colonialism and genocide to the genocide of Palestinians, which isn't to say Israel does not also uniquely bear a terrible weight here that will last far longer than any of our lives.
I am against anti-semitism, I despise it. So is every anti-Zionist worth their salt and if I know one thing about the activists who show up to champion these causes it is that they will not tolerate people who violate basic human decency no matter if they are on their team or not... that is PRECISELY why they showed up to the protest in the first place. Focus on them as your enemy at your peril for the rightwing is turning very clearly on judaism as a scapegoat even as we speak....
“It seems pretty explicitly pro-colonization and protecting of the ideology that genocide and ethnic cleansing are okay for certain groups to perform as long as it upholds your own personal or capitalistic interests,” Green, a Grindr user I spoke to who also saw this error message, told me. “It’s gross. And to put energy towards protecting a blatantly bigoted ideology and not put the same energy towards protecting minority groups is pathetic. So fuck Grindr and its inability to intersect queer oppression with the oppression of other groups.”
Don't mistake these words for arguing this is too complicated to understand, that we must all learn even more divisions and categories... no this is the opposite. Our voices call for a simplicity of kindness, which recognizes the foundational humanity of all before any further judgement, a virtue honored by all the worlds major religions for obvious reasons.
Zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.
Judging by the rest of your comment, I think you meant anti-zionism is not anti-semitism.
With that said, I agree wholeheartedly.
Personally I've always found it quite antisemitic to prescribe all people of the Jewish faith the opinions of the state of Israel, and in turn hold them accountable for the states actions.
When people say anti Zionism is equivalent antisemitism that's what they are doing, and in turn removing all agency from people of the Jewish faith.
I have yet to ask people who make the argument about this though, but I assume it'd be a shitstorm.
For sure. Zionism itself is very anti-Semitic for that reason.
I was correcting a typo in the post above.
Let's take these serious for a moment and pretend that anti zionist = nazi
and zionist = jew
Does grindr really want that Jews meet up with nazis unexpectedly in a private place?
Nazis on Grindr? You must be kidding. No self respecting nazi would ever choose to be gay…
/s just in case that needed to be stated…
Oh please, it's always the bible thumping hellfire preaching black man lynching baptist pastor/senator that is caught with three underage dicks in his mouth in an airport men's room. ALL nazis are gay.
some of the cutest furry art works were made by gay nazis
The nazi presence in the furry movement is really under estimated by people who're outside the subculture. There's, like... there's a lot of them in there, guys. Recruiting from persecuted groups is already standard operating procedure for fascists, and the furry community notoriously has both money, a great deal of practice at forming groups that insulate their members from criticism, and a real serious problem with sexism. Unfortunately, it makes for the ideal environment to grow far-right movements.
This is such a weird stance for American companies and politicians. It truly blows my mind. You can say whatever you want about Americans or anything here. You can even say the president is a pedophile and it's fine (even if it wasn't true) but the second you say something bad about Israel because they suck everyone starts flipping their shit.
It's like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.
Its like the ruling class of our country is being blackmailed by Israel.
FTFY
No. Well, maybe, but also much worse.
How is nobody calling out the fact that millions of Americans think that creating the State of Israel is supposed to fulfill their sadistic, hateful, apocolyptic prophecy fantasy of eternal punishment for people that dare to test their fickle faith. This is a large part of why this world sucks right now. Other than this simple quagmire, world control is about the almighty profit, but this is where these Americans will act counter to profit.
People still use Grindr?
I’m tempted to go back and club penguin that shit.
That's weird. Does that mean they can't say "no rice or spice" anymore too?
Ah, so, no. Racism is fine still.
Ok, but it doesn't say anything about "nay to ye zionists".
exactly ... just make up another code word or phrase to mean the same thing
I feel like they actually could make their own app with blackjack and hookers.
It’s a big group on their platform.
Lol
Ah, time for new lingo to pop up.
I propose we go with "no zucchinis"
It's both innuendo, and can convey the word for Zionist
'No bigots' should cover it, shouldn't it?
Did Grindr get paid by the ADL or something? Either way it could be bypassed by just saying "no genocide apologists" lol
Not difficult to realize why when you realize who owns it along with many of the other dating apps.
All of them are owned by the same group of christofascists aren't they?
Don’t be antisymptomatic
Clearly, other ideologies are also blocked then correct? Like, you can’t say, “no Christian nationalists” or “no white nationalists” or “no fascists” or “no Neo-Nazis” or “no MAGA”. Right? Right?? You have to accept and expose yourself to all dangerous ideologies equally.
from the article:
Several users received an error message that says “The following are not allowed: no zionist, no zionists,” when they tried to add the phrases to their bios on Thursday. I tested this myself on a new Grindr account, and received the same error message. I was able to add “Zionist” to my profile (without “no”), however, and could also add any phrase I could think of: “no Arabs,” “no Blacks,” “no Palestinians,” “no Muslims,” “no Christians,” “no Jews,” “no trans,” “no Republicans,” “no Democrats,” and so on. “No Zionist[s]” was the only phrase that was blocked in my testing.
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