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[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

This is ridiculous. Clearly the solution is for Elon Musk's Boring Company to build Hyperloops underneath each school, to allow students to escape quickly in their Teslas.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 hours ago

I assumed this was the onion....reality wins again.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

If this happened in China we would call it ridiculous

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 48 points 14 hours ago

$550,000 per month, an elite team of drone racing pilots, encrypted command and control system.

All defeated by a $30 WiFi jammer from Alibaba.

This isn't even security theater.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago

The answer is clearly ceiling mounted remote controlled gun turrets — running over ethernet and fiber — in every room.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 10 points 13 hours ago

Why would you get a drone controlled thru wifi? It's just dumb, at worst they're only sending video somewhere around that frequency

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Unless they're fiber optic drones, they're vulnerable to jamming. It is trivially cheap and easy to buy or make a device that spews noise across a wide range of frequencies.

You can buy devices to jam all WiFi and cellular activity in a few hundred yard radius for under $100. (This is a felony in the US, so don't do it... but I imagine mass shooters don't adhere to FCC regulations).

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

What's the range on them? And how are they jamming all frequencies? I suspect by outputting a tiny amount of power, which is shit against any competent setup. And what happens if they're using FHSS?

edit: what I'm saying is no school shooter is gonna be as competent as a specialist in that field, and I think the company bets on that.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

And how are they jamming all frequencies?

The common ones are typically designed to transmit on common frequency ranges (wifi, cellular, GPS).

What’s the range on them? I suspect by outputting a tiny amount of power, which is shit against any competent setup.

You can buy 1W-1,000W UWB jammers on alibaba. It's very unlikely that a drone the size that they're showing in the article is going to be able to transmit at a higher power. It would cause disruption for thousands of yards with a clear line of sight.

And what happens if they’re using FHSS?

Doesn't matter. These things output noise on all channels for the frequency range that they're designed for (say from 2.4Ghz to 2.5Ghz). All channels are being jammed, so jumping between them won't do much.

what I’m saying is no school shooter is gonna be as competent as a specialist in that field, and I think the company bets on that.

Oh yeah, you're probably right and, it's entirely possible that they're using non-standard frequencies or some other countermeasure. On the other hand, software defined radios exist if someone wanted to do consumer-tier electronic warfare.

It's not likely to happen, but neither is a school shooting.

If a county is going to pay millions of dollars for a system claiming to be the last line of defense between a mass shooter and school children, then it shouldn't be something that can be completely shut off with a $50 piece of equipment. Maybe I'm missing important details, but if I were looking at this project I'd have some questions about the specifics of how these drones are remotely controlled.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Mass shooters almost never plan past the "kill a bunch of people in a horrific environment" stage. Even when they do (see the Aurora shooter) they focus on tacticool bullshit rather than actual tactics. Guy's gun jammed about instantly with his super cool 100-round mag, had to toss it and go to work with a shotgun.

In related news, I'm all about high capacity mags! Yes, really. They jam constantly, total pain in the ass, and people who actual shoot guns scoff at them. LOL, I mostly use 10 and 20-round mags in my AR because they never fail. Found a nice Magpul 50-round at the thrift one day for $15. Was tempted to buy it for giggles, for just a second. Nah.

Anyway, I don't expect a jammer to be in a murderer's kit.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 13 hours ago

These kids will naturally learn how to jam drones. Not a bad thing, but it is a dumb situation.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

Why though? If they're in boxes 99.9% of the time, there's no need

[-] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago

“As far as I’m concerned, we’ve got to protect the children. We have to be able to disrupt intruders,” West said at the demo. “We saw what happened in Uvalde. School resource officers were hesitant to go into that room, and so what you’ve got to recognize is, there’s a danger for them also, but they are there on the front line.”

But it wasn't just the school resource officers not going in, was it?

The cops had assault rifles and ballistic shields and flashbangs and body armor. What makes you think one more toy is gonna make a difference?

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Uvalde was a communication cluster fuck, not so much cop cowardice. It's fucking painful to watch, but here's the definitive documentary on what went down that day.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/inside-the-uvalde-response/

CAVEAT: You may scream and cry, I did, but that day was probably not how most think it went down. It wasn't so much scared cops. It was cops utterly paralyzed by a broken chain of authority and broken command and control infrastructure. I'll never watch it again.

[-] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

They’re still citing uvalde? Fuck uvalde. They don’t actually care. After the massacre Uvalde county overwhelmingly voted for every sheriff, judge and politician who caused it. They had a chance for change and they instead voted Republican all the way down. Uvalde clearly don’t care about their own kids and community so why should I? All my sympathy for those people evaporated.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 11 hours ago

A tragedy that exposed what police are really about...

And normie republicans still don't get it

[-] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 21 points 13 hours ago

Schools are cutting funding for free lunch programs but are supposed to have funds for this?

Well, duh?! How else are they supposed to protect children from school shootings? Banning firearms?

You know what the real solution for the problem is? Banning schools! If you don't have schools, you can't have school shootings!

They could just teach children at the churches.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Or after their shift at the slaughterhouse

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Decentralize the education? You lemmings have a one track mind…

[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

ED-209: ILLEGAL THOUGHT DETECTED.
ED-209: IMMEDIATELY STOP. YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS TO COMPLY.
Teacher: You better stop thinking independently, Kinny.
Kinny: stops singing Captain Planet themesong
ED-209: YOU NOW HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY.
ED-209: I AM NOW AUTHORIZED TO USE PHYSICAL FORCE.

[-] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 13 hours ago
[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 12 points 14 hours ago

This needs to be the second panel of one of those "Hey America how's it goin?" memes.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The high-tech drones, which are piloted by a team of former military men and nationally ranked professional drone racers,

For now. Eventually when they've got these in every district they outsource drone piloting to save cost, either to India or AI.

Honestly, im not 100% against the concept. It's like a sprinkler system, but for shooters. And i reckon school resource officers aren't held to much of a standard either so...

That's a good point about the wifi jammers i admit. But I don't know of any active shooter events that involved someone who put that level of thought into it, not to say there arent any its just... idk.. Couldn't be that hard to swat it out of the air in a hallway...

Shooting reported on school campus.

Teach pulls out gun to protect students from shooter

Teacher mowed down by drone.

How are they supposed to know who the shooter is? If it's just finding the one with the gun, then I assume you have to ban teachers from bringing guns again.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

That's why we need to invest in better facial recognition technology and keep detailed records of the movements of everyone in the world. How else will our autonomous killing machines know who the bad guys are? It's for your own good citizen.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I mean, presumably the pilot would be able to tell because the teacher with the gun is barricaded in a room with students theyre not shooting

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago

If they're using anything other than shit tier components they can have a load of different control and video frequencies on different drones, all in the same building. No serious drone is gonna be reliant on fucking wifi, unless it's a child's toy lol

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

You need to revisit the question with the idea of "what will maximize profits" in mind.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

Well I don't think having your drone system get paralyzed by relying on wifi is gonna be good for profits. That means they failed on their mission and they lost a load of reputation and have to start over with something better.

Maybe I'm just FPV-brained, but it seems really trivial to make jamming a difficult task even if you only have access to chinese parts, at least in the context of kids. As long as the company doesn't show their cards (control and video frequencies, how it's stored when not in use, fhss patterns (if any), how it connects to the operators) it seems difficult to mess up.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago

I mean. I always see stuff to indicate the shooters put a shit ton of thought into it. I have yet to see one were in the morning they were like. lol gonna gun it up.

[-] mc900ftJesus@lemy.lol 4 points 14 hours ago

Can’t wait til China hacks into this.

[-] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago

The article doesn't mention a single school actually buying this system.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Becuase this is a shill op article that twill be used to sell schools these "drones"

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I… vomited (boofed?) the onion on this one hard. After reading the article, it’s not actually as bad as it sounds, but I don’t trust that there’s any way to encrypt or bar access to these drones that will stand up to all of the kids in Texas schools.

[-] sourhill@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 hours ago

“When we think about it, it's less militarizing than having police officers carrying guns everywhere."

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Goddamn Texahoma. Your school administrators are the bad kind of crazy.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 hours ago

I recently finished a historical novel where an old man asked a boy if he was an Oki, and the boy replied he's from the Texas panhandle. The old man replied they're the same thing, so your comment amused me.

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