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Trump boosts tariffs on Canada to 35%, carrying through on his threat (www.cbc.ca)

submitted 2 days ago by Reannlegge@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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"Canada has failed to co-operate in curbing the ongoing flood of fentanyl and other illicit drugs, and it has retaliated against the United States for the president's actions to address this unusual and extraordinary threat," says the statement.

If I remember correctly most of the fentanyl found was heading north to Canada not south to the US.

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[-] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 80 points 2 days ago

This was, and continues to be, never about fentanyl.

Trump wants to feel like a powerful leader so instead of taking on actual substantial threats to the US economy he bullies his smaller allies, like the weakling he is.

We can't transition trade away from that failed state south of us quickly enough. And, as with many of Trump's shortsighted "bull in a China shop" decisions, this will only serve to motivate us to do so quicker while also detrimentally affecting the US' own long-term trade prospects.

[-] gidostro@lemmy.cafe 17 points 2 days ago

Ironically, we all know the fent is from China and it’s flowing here to fuck us up as a plan to crush us.

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Opium Wars 3? Do we know that? Got a link for more info?

[-] gidostro@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It was on Lemmy. Did you miss it?

https://selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/The%20CCP%27s%20Role%20in%20the%20Fentanyl%20Crisis%204.16.24%20%281%29.pdf

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately I don't see every post that's ever posted to Lemmy, so yes I missed it.

Thanks for the link though.

These guys sound totally unbias...

The Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party is committed to working on a bipartisan basis to build consensus on the threat posed by the Chinese Communist Party and develop a plan of action to defend the American people, our economy, and our values.

https://selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/about-committee

[-] gidostro@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, I do agree that it reads pretty bad in the introduction. They should’ve run the shit through an LLM to cool it down a little bit. There was actually a place where it compares the number of deaths per day to an airplane full of people. Just try to filter that crap out and get to the data.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I didn't know that. I always assumed it was big drug companies with a backdoor illicit business.

[-] gidostro@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago

I think that’s pretty rare. They can push through doctors and keep their hands super clean. Now, there have been issues of misleading marketing, overproduction, and failure to report suspicious orders.

There are several other articles available online, but here is a pdf.

https://selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/The%20CCP%27s%20Role%20in%20the%20Fentanyl%20Crisis%204.16.24%20%281%29.pdf

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What's this? We capitulated to a bully and he... turned around and punched us on the mouth? How can this be? Who could possibly have seen this coming?

FFS stop trusting Americans already.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

You mean about the DST? I'm pretty sure Carney just used Trump as an excuse to axe it. There was opposition to it from Canadian tech companies, too.

[-] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Carney needs to just respond publicly something along the lines of "if you're so concerned about drugs why did you pardon the silk road guy"

[-] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Then he’d be “mean and nasty” and we certainly wouldn’t want that.

Thank you for your attention in this matter!

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Marijuana, fentynal, and worst of all: Kinder Surprise eggs

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

🤣

[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago

Headline should more accurately read: "Trump raises taxes on Americans purchasing goods made in Canada by 35%."

[-] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

That would be far to accurate for the GOP base to understand. In fact, Trump himself doesn't seem to understand this either.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Headline should also read their defence of Trumps emergency powers had a shit day in court and now he’s trying to do a full court press so we sign while he has a semblance of authority here.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

Funny thing is, he's still a rapist who is partaking in a massive cover up to conceal the fact that he was involved in Epstein's child sex trafficking empire.

We shouldn't be doing business with him, regardless of whatever "deal" Canada expects to get from this unstable idiot.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

The worst kept secret: Trump is a rapist pedophile. The Untied States is a laughing stock because they not only refuse to enforce their own laws consistently, they make a known criminal who has committed at least 100 felonies their leader. Why do other world leaders put up with this shit?

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Why do other world leaders put up with this shit?

Literally this. Why not come together and say that they cannot work with criminals? It looks bad on them that they still do, and it continues to give trump legitimacy.

[-] MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca 45 points 2 days ago

Fuck that fucking fuck.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

who gives a fuck

Epstein file ya gd pedoliar

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago

The taco shitstain will do what the taco shitstain always does, just you wait

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago

Reciprocate.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago

Blink the lights, Doug.
Reciprocate+1
That+1 is permanent until the next regime.
Agree to remove the 'basic tariff' if he does.
That +1 really stays.
Next time Trump rattles his plastic sabre, it's another reciprocation +1 more permanent.

Cut the power by 35%.

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

I'm hoping for the power cuts, personally.

[-] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I never understood the reason to reciprocate, if tariffs only effect Americans than wouldn’t Canada imposing tariffs only effect Canadians?

I sure bet there is a lot more American made products in Canada than vice versa.

[-] wampus@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Meh, a direct pissing match against a bag of piss isn't likely to go well.

Carney pre-bitchification had the right idea -- he just needs to remember what he'd been saying on the campaign trail. Like how he wasn't going to pre-emptively make concessions/statements, as that would harm trade negotiations.... but then when he gets into the hot seat, he's pre-emptively bailing on the DST. Or how he confidently said shit like "We need to focus more on the things that are in our control, as the US will do whatever the US will do" (or something along those lines) -- just let the piss bag piss himself, and focus on other markets.

Waa waa, it takes time to detangle supply chains! Well it's been 8+ months, how much progress have these companies/industries made? Any? No? Well too fuckin bad then.

[-] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago

Our response hopefully:

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 days ago

🖕

Fuck Donald Trump.

They’re in a (self imposed) worse position than us, so I think we just keep pushing them.

Today’s hearing on whether the “fentanyl” tariffs are legal swung heavily in our favour that Trump does not have authority to impose them.

It’s no coincidence he throws a shit fit when things are not looking his way, so he’s just trying to extort us into signing something before the courts rule this illegal and they have to pay back all the importers who paid tariffs.

This will likely go to their Supreme Court, so god knows what will happen in October when that happens, but realistically they’ll lose all their leverage and have to gasp follow their own legal framework as laid out in the US Constitution.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

I like your optimism, but their Supreme Court is captured and the Constitution and rule of law is dead.

Let's build a Canada that omits the US.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Do you honestly think that the Republicans give a single fuck about what any court says?

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

I would just love it if someone would just tell this guy to fuck off and follow through.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I nominate this fellow from Ottawa and this particular speech as our trade representative to the US: (Obvious strong language warning)

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago

Bring back the DST

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Bring back the Grassy Knoll.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Yes tax the heck out of his donors!

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

OMG, he's still on fentanyl, wow. He didn't even use the Palestinian statehood on this one. That's great. It means absolutely no one in Canada would be confused this is bullshit.

The TSX doesn't seem to have responded, so this either already baked in or everyone bets on TACO. Which makes sense either way because:

However, Canadian goods that meet the terms of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement will not be subject to the tariff, which means the vast bulk of Canada's exports can still cross the border tariff-free.

So it's still just theatre. I'm not sure who the audience is at this point.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I’m not sure who the audience is at this point.

His followers, who think this makes him a strong leader.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

You're probably right. I keep forgetting the context he operates in. From propaganda perspective these tariffs are a perfect tool for him. They allow him to maintain the strong leader facade while having little economic effect. The fentanyl issue is something his base is concerned about so he loops than in to demonstrate he's taking care of it. We can live with that.

[-] Idontopenenvelopes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Get fucked Donnie, you can have your shit hole country all to your self. Canada is going to end up part of the EU and then you're good and fucked.

[-] bowreality@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Who cares anymore?

[-] gidostro@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 days ago

My wallet, ya cunt. Respectfully.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

If you're Canadian, you don't pay the tariffs. If you're American, your country voted for this.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but my country currently sucks

[-] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Except Canada is going to have to reciprocate in kind. This is basic game theory, tit for tat. We can't allow ourselves to get stepped on without hitting back.