"Just dig the hole, hole digger"
All data carriers, like ISPs, payment processors, email services, etc. should have NO control, nor even oversight or input, over the content of their transmission or the purposes thereof.
Imagine if all roads were privately own and they wanted to know every detail about those traveling on their roadways. Origin and destination, every detail about you, about your vehicle, what you have in your car, etc. And imagine they could decide that certain cars were allowed on their roads, you weren't allowed to use their roads to get to certain destinations, they get lobbied by bigots to not allow gays to drive on their roads, or people that have porn in their vehicle. There's no public alternative, and sometimes no private alternative, and even private alternatives do the exact same thing... if we wouldn't allow that sort of surveillance, interference, and autocratic control with or means of movement, why should we allow it with our means of trade.
Jesus girl would side with the payment processor.
Still itch.io deindexed all nsfw games
Edit: Okay so they now reindexed them.
Today, we are re-indexing free adult NSFW content. We are still in ongoing discussions with payment processors and will be re-introducing paid content slowly to ensure we can confidently support the widest range of creators in the long term.
Would you rather they had shut down because nobody is able to pay them anymore? They complied with the demands for the time being because they have a business to run - and then they immediately started looking for a solution.
I don't believe people fault itch.io or steam for what they did. You can be upset with an action and still understand why it was done. It's the same mental allowance you would give to someone if they agreed to cover your shift but the morning of their kid got sick and you had to come in anyway. Sure, you're upset but you also understand that someone would need to take care of their kid.
So we can be upset that NSFW games were delisted. But the other options would be them only getting paid through physically bought Steam and Itich.io gift cards.
and stripe apparently plans to allow NSFW content in future, which is super promising.
I hope itch.io finds an alternative in the meantime though
allow
Shouldn't be their decision in the first place. Process the fucking payments, payment processors.
They just missed very old news about how games that depict illegal activities do not really cause people to do illegal activities. Therefore they can't be illegal themselves.
Plus, where do you draw the line?
Social media where users discuss illegal activities? Movies that depict illegal activities?
There are a lot of illegal activities in the bible.
I committed genocide in age of empires 2 yesterday, but lewd games is where I draw the line!
I want Visa and MC to show us a time they were prosecuted by the government for processing a payment they shouldn't have.
Maybe it is time for an anti-trust investigation.
in this administration?
good luck....
Might dust off Taft-Hartley to bust some unions though
Just use whichever payment processor is the lesser evil to push them towards getting better.
Because that's working out super great with politics!
And which one is that?
I use my local bank for that.
Banks and payment processors are not the same thing though.
And yet I can pay directly from my bank account in the steam store.
Buying from steam I currently have the option of Mastercard or visa. They don't accept the other ways I have, and it's difficult for me to get the ones they accept.
As I understand it they are both doing it in coordination.
You can buy steam store credit directly
Given the show this meme is taken from, I can't tell if the quote itself is unaltered or not. 🤣
Drive the bus, bus driver
Fill the hole, hole filler.
Damn, am I really going to have to start going to bank regularly, getting cash from the cashier, and boycotting card-only places.
Meh, I guess I've nowt better to with my time.
Let's be clear though
The payment processors did the blocking but the requests came from some religious group that wants the entire world to be as miserable as they are.
Fuck all religions and fuck them for always wanting their claws in everything to try and control everything and everyone
Not to mention their little gaslighting memos they sent out trying to say it wasn't them that told them they wouldn't process those payments.
They’re payment networks, not payment processors
Isn’t this misinformation?
So... that means they do ... what? Network the payments?
They provide the digital infrastructure to have payments and money flows
Payment processors are other companies which use payment networks to process said transactions. Then often have their own rules which are more strict than payment networks
And the difference that makes for me is what?
That it isn’t Mastercard and Visa's fault but the payment processors'
Making this meme disinformation
I don't know, every news story I read on this said "Mastercard and Visa". I don't see how whether they are technically considered "processors" or "networks" matters to me or the issue.
sure is, fraud even
What?
It's not just a misinformation, it's a straight out homicide
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