i, james brown, am now quite certain huaaAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

I've said this before and I'll say it again: the US will need a cultural revolution after a socialist one and it will be the most difficult undertaking communists ever do. There won't be re-education because Americans were never educated in the first place. It will require isolating reactionaries from one another so they don't fall backwards into old habits. Some people will spend the rest of their lives away from society because they will reject every attempt to educate them decades later. And even more will be so extreme, they would rather die than accept capitalism failed.

Even when socialists fix everything wrong in their lives, American reactionaries will still cling to the myths of the old empire.

Look, I'm all for giving the Democrats a ton of shit. They absolutely deserve it, but let's not spread misinformation.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8404

During the 2022 congressional session, they managed to get a law on the books to codify interracial marriage and gay marriage. Unfortunately, the enforcement mechanism is that people have to sue the state to enforce their rights, or that the DOJ needs to do something about it, but it technically is there.

The Respect for Marriage Act kind of codified it. The issue is that court rulings override congressional statutes, executive orders and the constitution itself (although that's a little more rare).

They want Obergefell v. Hodges to get overturned so they can use it to beg for more money

Forgive my ignorance here but what does “codify” even mean? I’m sure the criticism of democrats here is warranted (I am not defending them at all), but when the fascists are pissing and shitting on every law and social norm we have, all this legal jargon just sounds like nonsense.

There is always a card up a sleeve, some antique law cited. The “No-Takesies-Backsies Clause” was overturned because some dickhead found the “Writ of Nuh-Uh”. It's was written on piece of parchment and is barely legible. It conveniently fell out of a dusty old tome in the Library of Congress last week and yet somehow it carries more legal weight than any other document on Earth.

Even worse, now the Republicans in a lot of cases are seemingly just skipping all the preamble and just going straight to the "fuck you please die" part.

writ of certiorari

harry potter ass legal code, fuckin stupid country

I have to think a small proportion of submissions are for the pet project of multiple justices and their patrons? The only question on gay marriage and the supreme court is if they'll use a procedure like this or an appealed case from a red state to kill it.

Who is funding these appeals?

Liberty Counsel (lc.org) of Orlando, Florida is. They receive around 5mil in funding per year from assorted grants and donations. Their donors aren't disclosed and they don't have a public 990 on record since 2015 and their last 990-T was from 2018. Here's the documents, but you might need to FOIA for more current info.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/592986294

EIN-ID: 59-2986294

Who is funding these appeals?

In June, the Southern Baptist Convention -- the nation's largest Protestant Christian denomination -- overwhelmingly voted to make "overturning of laws and court rulings, including Obergefell v. Hodges, that defy God's design for marriage and family" a top priority.

More tangentially, it seems like getting in front of the supreme court is the easiest lever for political change in this country. I really think you could get them to reneg on the "money as a form of speech" thing if you made the case that, say, you were just "talking" to Cubans or sex-workers or one of the other myriad ways your not actually allowed to use money as US citizen.

You're under the understanding that fascists give a shit about consistency or facts. They don't.

I really think you could get them to reneg on the "money as a form of speech" thing if you made the case that, say, you were just "talking" to Cubans or sex-workers or one of the other myriad ways your not actually allowed to use money as US citizen.

Nah, the courts only go more fascist now that the fascists have a majority, never less.

all laws are fake

Their argument will be -- and has been ever since the original ruling -- that the Majority Opinion misinterpreted the existing law, so it was never the meaning of the law, it just got treated that way by people abusing judicial power to accomplish their goals.

On a literal level, I think there's merit to the idea that the Constitution "as-intended" doesn't protect gay marriage, but that's just more evidence that the Constitution fucking sucks and should be thrown out, along with the Supreme Court that plays ping pong with human rights.

the meaning of the law changed? because you just changed your mind?

:: astronaut in space meme :: always has been

chemerinsky (radlib, but whatever) has a phenomenal book on how much of a joke and un-Democratical SCOTUS opinions regularly are: The Case Against the Supreme Court.

it's all political. you don't get to elect them. they will literally just make shit up to get the political opinion they want. legal basis, prior law, even facts of the case.

podcast 5-4 goes over every decision. you can just listen to 2-3 episodes to begin to understand how stupid it all is

Wouldn't this be the tyranny of the minority? Since these positions are minority positions?

This is pretty clearly tyranny of the minority, isn't it? This isn't what most people support.

The way no one gives a fuck about science or objective facts drives me out of my mind