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[-] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 84 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A lot of the people I grew up with are dead now. It's not insignificant either, it's like half my friends. :yea:

I'm in my 20s. Drugs, depression, car wrecks (social murder) killed them.

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 59 points 6 months ago
[-] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 59 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If I ever lose my SO the capitalists will know. Pretty much the only bright spot in my life. All these young people filled with hopes, dreams, and a promising future died for nothing. I won't let it be for nothing at least for my SO.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago
[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

So sorry about your loss. Maybe instead of making another (hopefully not) death count some time in a potential future, you might find strength and peace sooner by making life count in the meantime and in honor of those who have passed. Whatever that might mean for you personally. Wish you the best

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

My childhood friend I had a falling out with died in 2016 from a heroin overdose. Most people I graduated with are barely getting by. No one I know has actually "made" something of themselves, just subsistence living. Millennial btw.

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 77 points 6 months ago

Psychic damage warning for the article…

Some select quotes from a very serious researcher:

Early adults proved especially susceptible to drug overdose deaths as synthetic fentanyl swept the country, but also became increasingly likely to die in car collisions and from digestive diseases and diabetes, and stopped making much progress in death rates from circulatory disease.

What the fuck is the passive voice bullshit? “Early adults are susceptible to fentanyl?” Are they just growing it on their personal fentanyl trees? How are they getting it? “Become increasingly likely to die in car collisions” oh word? Their bodies are just becoming unable to take collisions like their ancestors- absolutely no external factors. “…and diabetes” oh you mean a disease that can be managed if the medication isn’t ransomed so Eli Lilly can turn a profit? “And stopped making much progress in death rates from circulatory disease.” These fucking kids stopped working hard at not dying! Circulatory diseases? Related to air quality, stress, diet, etc? Never heard of root causes - sounds made up.

We don’t know exactly why this is happening. Some changes related to the pandemic seem relatively obvious: employment loss and insecurity that disproportionately impacted younger workers, increased alcohol consumption and drug use, and coincided with high rates of depression that continued to distinctly affect early adults following the peak pandemic. This age group experienced hardships during COVID-19 that are difficult to bounce back from.

No one knows why this is happening agony-shivering

In the 2028 election, millennial and Gen Z voters will account for half of the U.S. electorate. Many of these early adults are disillusioned with a political and economic system that does not provide living wages, stable employment, housing security, or affordable health care. As social mobility in the U.S. has decreased, the prospect of homeownership and marriage has also become unattainable for many early adults, regardless of how hard they work. And now millennial and Gen Z Americans are far more likely to die than their age peers in other rich nations.

Ahhhh we keep extracting wealth from “poor nations” (presumably); but unlike other “rich nations” it somehow disappears before it can get to the working class! Must be a ghost or something!

agony-consuming

These economic and health inequities are likely to further increase with cuts to the country’s social safety net, including to programs such as Medicaid, to pay for tax cuts for high earners. Technological advancements may lead to widening income inequality if stable jobs are replaced by A.I. Investing in millennials and Gen Z should be a top policy priority. Politicians looking to win votes would do well to make it a key part of their campaigns.

Actually I can think of a number of other top priorities for politicians to line up behind gui-better

The sobering fact is that Americans in early adulthood have fallen far behind their peers in other rich countries—to the point where more of them are losing their lives.

Oh hell yeah tie a personal responsibility bow on it you absolute fucking ghoul

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 6 months ago

Employment loss is just something that happens to people for no reason.

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

“Ah shit I thought i left my employment around here somewhere… ah well, guess I’ll die!”

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago

How are they getting it?

Fentanyls are pack hungers and are adept at separating inexperienced young adults from the herd.

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

lol fuck. It does seem that way considering those are the friends of mine opioids claimed - inexperienced young adults navigating hellworld.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Oof, I'm really sorry you had to go through that. meow-hug

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

It’s a real mind fuck - especially for that sort of thing to just become “commonplace”. I remember my dad telling me about how his high school gf died in a car crash and thinking about how tragic and rare something like that is- but then it just keeps happening

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

I think a lot of this, like the passive voice and not commenting beyond the data, are just the habits of an academic writer. But yeah, it does result in de-politicizing the whole article, not great.

[-] prole@hexbear.net 64 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Before 2010, the estimated lifespan for American early adults increased every year. Deaths from HIV and cancer were plummeting. Homicides had fallen dramatically, and fatalities from circulatory disease, a major cause of death at every adult age, were also falling in this age group. But sometime after 2010, for almost every cause of death, this changed

Thanks Obama!

Edit: more seriously, wtf we live in hell

[-] segfault11@hexbear.net 53 points 6 months ago

this all happened due to the release of Airplanes by B.o.B feat. Hayley Williams

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Lmao. I buy this.

[-] ufcwthrowaway@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Any significant structural changes wpuld probably need a couple of years to start showing up in the death count, get addicted to fent -> die two years later...

Did anything historical happen in 2008?

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What do you mean "2008"? I see how you arrange digits as if it was a number but the start of numbers is 2025 when history began

[-] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 63 points 6 months ago

elizabeth wrigley-field

i dont have anything witty to say about this, it's just hilarious that a person with this name exists

[-] miz@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago
[-] dougfir@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

thomas pynchon character

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 58 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Call me a liberal but I need to GTFO here. Porky’s victory in burgerland has been absolute and those pigs are squealing in smug laughter on what they did and how they got away with it.

Even some parts in kkkanada haven’t been completely ruined yet because of the pigs feast. Quebec seems like the least bad part of both the US and Canada.

I cannot in good conscience raise a family here, and I’m going to have to relive my 20s as a 30-something playing catchup there because here, porky stole my 20s from me.

Least that pig can do is spit out a thank you sometimes for my “noble sacrifice”.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

Amerikkka is cooked I am also leaving

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 53 points 6 months ago

Social murder is just the new Gen Z fad that's sweeping the nation!

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 52 points 6 months ago

People who are 25 to 44 have experienced major turning points in this country’s history: The oldest of them were Reagan babies who launched their careers in the shadow of the Great Recession, and the youngest entered adulthood during a worldwide pandemic

This is the problem with the “ stonks-up will always go up in the long run” mentality. Even if Wall Street recovers from the crashes, for the people who come into the job market in the middle of the crash, it hurts not just their prospects then but down the line as well. Hits to long term savings, stuck in dead end jobs, employment histories that are less likely to land higher paying jobs. All of which can contribute to these premature deaths that plague burgerland.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’s so fucking bizarre that college degrees are things porky laughs at and says “not good enough!” Bro, the workforce literally trained itself and you think they need MORE training before they’re “good enough”? Fuck you, porko.

I need more people to start thinking that what’s bad for “the economy” is most of the time good for them. Why are we celebrating the economy becoming so efficient that the reserve army of labor is piling up in numbers? Why the fuck should I want anything except for porky’s “real estate portfolio” to go down into the toilet?

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 47 points 6 months ago

Well duh. It’s a system designed to sustain you just enough to draw labor from you; there are bound to be increased margins of error on that “sustaining” as the labor they want to draw gets higher and higher. I know I’ve had severe depression since childhood - but who actually wants to be alive in America? Let alone propagate a new generation? Just for them to go through the same meat grinder?

death___ I just want to die quietly and quickly lol I don’t care the age

[-] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

I don't even know if it's sustaining them long enough to draw labor. If anything it's milking boomers for childcare costs and killing the kid as soon as they're of age so they now also have to pay a lot for a funeral.

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

I’ve been to too many funerals sadness-abysmal

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Most of my friends couldn't afford funerals and were cremated by the state. I'm also my only surviving sibling. agony-deep

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

cuddle we try and build a better world in their memories

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

Well duh. It’s a system designed to sustain you just enough to draw labor from you; there are bound to be increased margins of error on that “sustaining” as the labor they want to draw gets higher and higher.

Marx talks about this a good deal in Capital, how "labor power" is an elastic category. Capitalists always want to push it downward by paying workers less, and this inevitably kills some of them.

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

I need to re-read Capital - it’s been a few years. It was just reminding me of statistics and modeling, and how when you try to extrapolate outside of your data set, you can get all sorts of wild variations. And capitalism is essentially extrapolating outside of the guard rails that keep a society functioning; and so we see social murder driven by capital’s need to extrapolate, as it’s already consumed well what’s reasonable but the rate of profit continues to fall. So if you aren’t getting enough flour from the mill, you simply dump in more grist. The grist in this case is us.

[-] acab_means_cop_Dva@hexbear.net 46 points 6 months ago
[-] acab_means_cop_Dva@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

There’s a new breakfast cereal in the US called Oops! All Social Darwinism!

[-] segfault11@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

yeah we can have socialism, social darwinism

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago

Hey look it's my weekly glimpse of the ghost of my naive optimism that it's possible to turn this death cult masquerading as a country around.

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago

"Ghost of My Naive Optimism" is my new band name, unless you already have it trademarked?

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

You can have it! I'm currently touring with Phantom Nostalgia for their new album The Past is a Hostile Country

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

sometime after 2010, for almost every cause of death, this changed.

The last time the federal minimum wage increased to it's current $7.25/hr was in 2009. In 2008 we had a demand for universal healthcare, voted in a guy who campaigned on it, and immediately capitualted to a poison pilled exclusionary anti worker Republican plan.

We never recovered from no-oil. Instead of unfucking what he did subsequent admins just doubled down.

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 months ago

I know this isn't an Obama thread, but I recall when he won the election I was so hopeful. We were going to see real change and improvement. He could have leveraged the power of the people to get anything done. Just point us in a direction.

That was the last time I was hopeful about our prospects in America. Immediately, they said something to the effect of, "Thank you very much for the votes! We're going to go behind closed doors and start the real work. God bless America."

I knew in that moment we were fucked.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Obama is my most hated president for this reason. He had the organization and the mandate, and just pissed it away. Obama is directly responsible for Trump.

[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

Interesting that they only briefly mention auto accidents. It's so dangerous to commute in the US with all the tanks zooming down our stroads

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Stress, guns, no healthcare, huge cars

This is a hostile environment. For everyone, regardless of political persuasion. Minorities are actively persecuted. Liberals are assaulted by the news and microaggressions. Chuds see phantom enemies around every corner. Nobody is happy. A country of trapped animals. Now prices are going up like crazy. The restraints bind tighter.

Edit: article lists 2010 as an inflection point. This is also the advent of social media, no coincidence

[-] MouthyHooker@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Kind of infuriating that they name cardiovascular disease and diabetes as factors that are killing us “post”-COVID but don’t make the connection that repeat COVID infections greatly increase our risk of developing diabetes and cardiovascular disease.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

I’m dying just so I can stick it to the boomers.

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