138
submitted 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) by Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca to c/linux@lemmy.ml

It's been a week. Ubuntu Studio, and every day it's something. I swear Linux is the OS version of owning a boat, it's constant maintenance. Am I dumb, or doing something wrong?

After many issues, today I thought I had shit figured out, then played a game for the first time. All good, but the intro had some artifacts. I got curious, I have an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 and thought that was weird. Looked it up, turns out Linux was using lvmpipe. Found a fix. Now it's using my card, no more clipping, great!. But now my screen flickers. Narrowed it down to Vivaldi browser. Had to uninstall, which sucks and took a long time to figure out. Now I'm on Librewolf which I liked on windows but it's a cpu hungry bitch on Linux (eating 3.2g of memory as I type this). Every goddamned time I fix something, it breaks something else.

This is just one of many, every day, issues.

I'm tired. I want to love Linux. I really do, but what the hell? Windows just worked.

I've resigned myself to "the boat life" but is there a better way? Am I missing something and it doesn't have to be this hard, or is this what Linux is? If that's just like this I'm still sticking cause fuck Microsoft but you guys talk like Linux should be everyone's first choice. I'd never recommend Linux to anyone I know, it doesn't "just work".

EDIT: Thank you so much to everyone who blew up my post, I didn't expect this many responses, this much advice, or this much kindness. You're all goddamned gems!

To paraphrase my username's namesake, because of @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone and his apt gif (also, Mr. Flickerman, when I record I often shout about Clem Fandango)...

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall GNU/LINUX OS grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

In my first year I had multiple issues with Linux. Mainly because I tried to install stuff that wasn't meant for my version of the OS but for an older one and I blindly followed the "black market" tutorials how to uninstall and reinstall packages to meet requirements. That corrupted my system and I had to repair it multiple times. Also, I played around with many distros and multibooted them all, destroying my grub once or twice.

Now that I use Ubuntu for a "longer" time, I rarely have issues except hardware specific ones. For example the webcam doesn't work on my dell laptop because apparently it is not supported right out of the box. But apart from that I have no issues compared to windows (where imho windows 11 is an issue in itself).

[-] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 hours ago

That's my overall experience with Ubuntu really. Bene using it for work and everyday there's some new annoyance

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

I like Linux, use(d) various flavors of it, and have had experience with / exposure to it for over 20 years. But no, I've never had a remotely flawless experience with it on a desktop or laptop environment. Wish I could offer more help or encouragement, but figured I'd at least chime in with some emotional support by affirming that you are not alone in that experience.

I would recommend Linux to technologically adept people (ex: tech professionals, computer science students) and only indirectly to less technically proficient people in the form of suggesting something like a Steam Deck for portable PC gaming to someone who might be interested.

But for an aging parent or my best friend's kids? No. Sometimes I already feel like I'm a free on-call 24/7 IT support tech for friends and family, and that's with mostly Windows and Android devices that pretty much just work the way folks expect (even if that way is broken/crumby/irritating/etc).

[-] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

It took a lot of learning, for sure, a lot of frustrated googling, but worth it. I wouldn't choose Ubuntu Studio as my first experience. Ironically my first experience was with Ubuntu, and it was awesome, but that's back when Ubuntu was good which was like 2008-2012 (my experience evidently is contrary to some here, but it was kind of the breakthrough of strong Linux desktops imo).

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

OS choice and hardware are a lot of it. I built a desktop in 2019 and it was the best experience I've had yet with Linux. Everyone works.

Nvidia 2070s, and ryzen 3800x, 64GB RAM. Even wifi and Bluetooth on the motherboard worked fine out of the box.

I used to have so many quirks once in a while on my last system and it was always to do with an update and an Nvidia driver, I'd have to drop to shell and manually reinstall it, or download a new one with cli browsers and install it lol.

But I persist because I love the idea and the mission.

While I use Windows for work and a steam deck mostly for gaming these days, any time I boot my desktop I'm blown away at how incredibly snappy it is compared to the windows of today.

Like I knew things were getting bad when the windows calculator started showing me a splash screen and needed to "load", and when the start menu started showing similar quirks. Now we have AI shoved in everywhere and it's just a gross OS to use.

But, I digress...

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Not flawless, but that's on me for insisting on a very particular look and workflow that involves lots of manual config editing.

[-] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Been running the same Arch installation for a bit over a year. Minor issues here and there, but nothing out of the ordinary for general computer use.

Learning was hard. I'd say it took me a good year before I was really genuinely comfortable with Linux overall, and even then, it was quite a while longer before I felt I could call myself experienced or proficient.

I will say this, switching to AMD was a massive step up in terms of reliability. Also, and this is just my experience, but as someone who also started on Ubuntu, I've had far fewer weird obscure issues on Arch than on that, or any other distro I've tried. It's daunting, but it's so well documented that it's almost impossible to have an issue with no known fix.

[-] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 hours ago

Honestly? Yeah so far. I swapped to Bazzite after getting a new AMD rig in early July. There was a little bit of setup for the first few weeks, but it's worked perfectly for the whole last month.

I did have many, many issues on my last computer when I was on an Nvidia card though. My impressions are that Linux can be very hardware dependent, and Nvidia is kinda notorious for not supporting their hardware.

[-] EponymousBosh@awful.systems 5 points 6 hours ago

NVIDIA

Welp, there's your problem. I have an NVIDIA card as well and it's been the source of at least 95% of my Linux headaches.

I've tried a few distros and Linux Mint was definitely the most "just works" for me. Make sure you're using the proprietary NVIDIA drivers, regardless of what option you choose. Currently I use SpiralLinux (Debian with a few tweaks) because I really like the BTRFS snapshots and fell in love with KDE during my distro-hopping, but Mint is what I would recommend to the vast majority of people.

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago

I use Nvidia on desktop and haven't had any issues

I use arch and cachyOS

I'm not sure what people do that kill their system frequently, and I like to think I'm over-thinkering with things.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I also use Arch/NVIDIA without issue.

The last major NVIDIA issue I had was trying to use gamescope to get HDR. But after Proton 10 I just use native Wayland which supports HDR (in KDE Plasma).

[-] lemmysir@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago

Most stuff worked great out of the box for me. I had some quirks with power management, specifically for my wifi card, resulting in bad wifi, but there are so many resources and so many people willing to help out that it was not even a big problem to solve. I haven't used Ubuntu, I am on arch, but the great thing is, most problems and solutions don't really care what distro you're on, so I am no stranger to ubuntu forums when researching something. And as cliché as it is to recommended, the arch wiki is an amazing source of information, so definitely give it a look.

[-] HouseWolf@pawb.social 5 points 6 hours ago

Honestly depends on the hardware. I still had an Nvidia card for the first year I used Linux and 90% of my issues stemmed from that...

As for everything else I've had a much easier time with Linux than most people I know because I unintentionally bought peripherals that already worked great with Linux before I was even thinking about switching.

A few people I know have tried Linux but ran into issues with their mice or audio equipment that require proprietary drivers or dedicated software to fully function. Most of these are the big name "gamer" brands like Razer.

I had issues with Razers software all the way back on Windows 7 so I swore off buying anymore keyboards or mice that require 3rd party drivers so I never had an issue with them when switching over.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

I do but im not gaming on my linux setup and im using zorin although I just installed kde. Installed a few other things as I have needed them but for my day to day it was pretty good right out of the box (ok there is no box anymore but I don't know of a new phrase for this). If I was gaming I would likely do a separate gaming distro.

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 hours ago

My advice would be, only use vanilla/default/official versions of the most popular distros. Ubuntu, not Ubuntu Studio, Fedora, not (I don't know what variants there are) Fedora. Do not use specialized distros, for example a gaming distro. Do not use 3rd party repos. Do not manually install any packages from anywhere. If you want something and official repos of your official distro cannot do it, just don't do it. Do not try to find a workaround and make it happen.

After using Linux for a while you'll become more comfortable with it and you'll slowly start moving outside the above limitations. The best and worst thing about Linux is that your OS is yours and you can tinker with all of its parts. But you shouldn't, at the beginning. If you were to tinker with Windows like that, it would also break.

[-] bia@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I've used Linux for 15 years and absolutely don't tinker with a system I depend on, completely agree with this advice.

The downside as others have mentioned is that tinker-free support is hardware dependant. But it's getting better over time.

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 hours ago

Immutable distros imo help developers with this issue of subvariants a lot. Each immutable distro will have the same behavior, the only difference is hardware interactions. This helps with debugging.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

I had a lot of problems when I've used Ubuntu in the past. To be fair that was 2009 - 2012 and it was a much less mature product. But whether it's snaps, unity, or Ubuntu One integrations, they always seem to be doing their own thing in a way that's not particularly helpful.

I've had a much more "just works" experience with Fedora and Mint.

[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Surface Go 1: Had problems with my bluetooth mouse being slow to be detected. Also sometime it’s slow until I connect and disconnect the screen it’s hooked up to. Otherwise works flawlessly.

MacBook Pro 2012: Sometimes I have to reinstall some drivers for the wifi. Otherwise works flawlessly.

Both run Fedora 42. So I’d advise you to not give up and maybe just switch distro👍

[-] Wfh@lemmy.zip 26 points 12 hours ago

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: it starts with hardware.

It's sad to say but a flawless Linux experience out of the box often comes from picking the right hardware first. Chose vendors who actively support Linux. AMD/Intel CPUs, APUs and/or GPUs. Intel WiFi card. Everything else should work ootb except most fingerprint sensors. Avoid laptops with dGPUs. Avoid nVidia. Hardware support comes from hardware vendors, the days of janky community drivers have been over for almost 2 decades. When it's time for you to replace your hardware, do your homework first and/or buy from companies who sell Linux machines (Framework, Tuxedo, Slimbook, Starlabs, System76, some Dells, some Lenovos, etc). You can still buy from random companies but there won't be any guarantees.

Then, the choice of distro in kinda important but not that much. In my 20+ years of actively using and working with Linux, both in the desktop and server space, I've always found Ubuntu and its derivatives kind of janky. I'm a lifelong Debian user, but my best experience on modern hardware have been Fedora on my main laptop and its atomic derivative Bazzite on my gaming rig. Bazzite also comes with a nVidia-specific image for those who can't/wont replace their GPU.

Nowadays to limit interactions between system and user-facing applications, I tend to install most things from Flathub. It might not help with hardware issues, but it helps with stability.

[-] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

This

I go out of my way to look for Linux-libre compatible hardware and everything "just works." Sure it's not a gaming rig but I don't expect it to be. Expecting some random "Linux" to be a drop in replacement for Windows is going to disappoint.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

This is pretty much my take, almost exactly.

I don't game so don't have to worry about powerful GPUs et cetera.

Starting with the right hardware just makes everything easy.

I've also been using debian stable since forever. Avoiding jumping across to the latest shiny new OS has just made everything boring and predictable and maintainable.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago

I get what you're saying..if that were my experience I'd be jack of it too. I've got similar spec and am running Nobara which is pretty much Steam OS for people with Nvidia cards. The only thing. The only thing I got really into the weeds on was setting up Plex. Which wasn't my first preference but I couldn't work out hot to get Jellyfin to cast to my old Chromecast. Other than that though I've had a great experience that 'just works'.

[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I experience the same thing every time I decide to try KDE on any distro.

[-] Sirence@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

My experience has indeed been flawless but that's simply because I don't have many use cases where flaws could appear. I use the Vivaldi and gimp on my t490 and play indie games on my steam deck.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago

I had some weird artifacting issues in an older version of Nvidia proprietary. While viewing certain windows or colors, my screen would flicker, or else I would get weird diagonal lines across my whole screen.

I went nuts trying to figure it out. In the end since I started on Pop!_OS, I just easily rolled back to a previous version of the proprietary drivers and called it good. Well, later I wanted to try EndeavourOS. I was too noob to figure how to roll back the drivers there.

So a friend asked me, "Are you using display port or HDMI? Try the other one." I highly doubted that would fix anything, but for the sake of trying everything, I switched to HDMI. And well... fuck me if it didn't work. I've just been running HDMI ever since.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I was too noob to figure how to roll back the drivers there.

I think the official method is to check your pacman cache and pray that it’s still in there. Arch only rolls forward, for good or ill.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 66 points 17 hours ago

Think of your workstation running Ubuntu Studio as new shoes that need running in.

I've been using Debian Linux as my primary desktop for over 25 years. The amount of downtime I experience is negligible. When I look at the sheer volume of MacOS updates requiring a reboot, or the absurd number of "fixes" pushed by Microsoft, I'm very content.

load more comments (14 replies)
[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

Honestly, after tens of years of personal computing, there should be easier/more robust ways to run software and move windows around.

Bootstrapping and initcpio are workarounds for inadequate hardware imo.

[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 11 points 13 hours ago

Not flawless, but also not catastrophic.

It seems like the problems I encounter lessen (or lessen in difficulty to troubleshoot) as I use arch linux more and more.

If you use amd hardware, then I guess you'll have a good time with the distros. Most "user friendly" distros should work out of the box. Try switching to something other than debian based.

With the nvidia open kernel modules, it has been rather hassle free for me.

Also remember to check the arch wiki. It's a great resource.

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

On Windows, it was Superfetch.
Whenever I was unable to load something, whenever copying took too long, whenever the system was being too hot, it was Superfetch.
Then I tried multiple ways to first stop it then disable it and realise it came back up later on.
Then it was always Windows Update.

Now, at least I am not fighting my OS.

I have had a flicker or 2, a few times. Need to change my monitor.
But the AMD GPU (and its driver) seems fine for now.

I don't have a flawless experience.
I just got to choose which flaws I am willing to keep.


Oh btw, I chose my motherboard based on Linux reviews.

[-] Frederic@beehaw.org 1 points 7 hours ago

In general, yes.. I used Ubuntu years ago but for almost 10 years now it's MX Linux (Debian based), only problem I had was on my brand new PC the wifi card was new and not well supported by the kernel, but with new kernel/driver it improved and now I have 0 problem.

[-] seralth@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Your using Ubuntu. Which honestly just loves to randomly shit the bed unless it's on a server. This has been true for basically it's entire existence.

Just use Debian or mint if your inlove with apt/Deb. Otherwise seriously switch to literally anything else. Anything is better then God damn Ubuntu.

[-] littlelordfauntleroy@lemmy.zip 33 points 16 hours ago

Dude I'd be lying if I said I never had issues, and so would anyone else who uses nux as a daily driver. Let's be real though, if you have never had an issue with Windows you are part of a blessed minority. Windows works fairly well most of the time, agreed, but so does my current distro.

I'm sure you're aware that nvidia has it's own issues, but from what I've read that is improving steadily. A big part of being on nux is the freedom, the stability and the security - seems like that is what attracted you in the first place. I think the early days of switching are definitely the hardest. As you have experienced, it can be downright fiddly. It's also largely unfamiliar, and you spend hours googling and trying to find solutions. The upside is that eventually you will solve most of these problems, or they will be solved in an update. You also gain a deeper knowledge of your OS and your machine in the process, and an appreciation of how very complex and beautiful it all is. It's a fair but at times frustrating trade.

Keep at it, things will work out eventually. Distro hopping can be fun and you may find something that works beautifully with your configuration, or you might not. Hope it goes well for you friend.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2025
138 points (91.6% liked)

Linux

57274 readers
1034 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS