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[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 102 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Really is impressive how the empire is tearing itself apart over something as foundational and (originally) apolitical as vaccinations

Even just 15 years ago, being an anti-vaxxer got you derision from everyone

Now, it gets you elected surgeon general lmao

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 72 points 1 month ago

Disgraced former doctor and medical science fraudster Mr. Andrew Wakefield and his consequences have been a disaster for public health

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

Even the USSR and US had vaccine deplomacy on smallpox. This here is dangerous

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Eventually. Iirc, The USSR had to basically drag the US kicking and screaming into vaccinating the third world.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

And they had distributed hundreds of millions of doses too.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Ya, I think it was largely a USSR/UN project or something that they eventually got the US to help fund. The US probably being reticent because of their love of using Smallpox and other biologicals in warfare.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Do you think we will have libraries in 50 years in the US?

[-] jack@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Yes, because we will have had a socialist revolution

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, the slavery of... mitigating health risks to the population at large

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago
[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 63 points 1 month ago

So, I grew up in Milwaukee, and when I was 10 or so, my school took us on a field trip to the Black Holocaust Museum

They had a gallery of multiple images like this, the docent describing the sheer brutality it took to do this to the human body

Comparing the distribution of vaccines to slavery sets a fire in my heart and I think I will have to go a couple extra rounds with the heavy bag tonight because boy howdy, I am enraged

[-] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

and yourself!!

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 61 points 1 month ago

For people that wanna censor the history of slavery in their country they sure use that word a lot for shit that doesn't fit

[-] Chana@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

It is important for tokenized black reactionaries to mention as often as possible in service of the ruling class ideology. Reactionaries think this is very clever.

[-] segfault11@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

"everything is slavery except actual slavery"

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago

I'd say this clip is overused, but I don't think it has ever been used without cause...

[-] Sleve_McDichael@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can’t even schedule a covid shot for myself this year because of ghouls like these

[-] Futterbinger@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

Freedom of speech was a mistake. Antivaxers should be shot.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago
[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Worry not. I'm sure all the LIBs are gonna do something super useful to show they're safe for immunocompromised people to be around... Like wear a bandaid on their arm or something, rather than a mask.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s a bit simplistic to say this but this is the exact kind of shit we practice solidarity to avoid. you can’t be a guardian of the working class - as every pro labor politician should be - and be walking disease vector that goes after the 2 classes labor laws we SPECIFICALLY fought to protect: the children and the elderly.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't think it's simplistic in the slightest, myself and many others have been screaming about the slippery slope we're on for years.

Seriously, I've been copy and pasting a variation of this comment for almost 3 years now:

The 1918 Influenza Pandemic and the Rise of Italian Fascism: A Cross-City Quantitative and Historical Text Qualitative Analysis - PMC

Fed study ties 1918 flu pandemic to Nazi Party gains - POLITICO

Anosognosiogenesis (@pookleblinky): "Today's covid denialists are tomorrow's openly eugenicist "these disabled people are a drain on society" Literally. 13 years after the Spanish flu, the very first people the nazis targeted were disabled people. What caused a lot of those disabilities, you think?"

~~A thread on Spanish Flu and the Nazis by pookleblinky~~ -I'm afraid this user deleted their twitter, so a really good thread on how Long Spanish Flu sufferers were probably some of the first victims of the Nazi's Euthanasia programs has disappeared.

The phrase Life Unworthy of Life was coined in 1920.

The phrase "life unworthy of life" (German: Lebensunwertes Leben) was a Nazi designation for the segments of the populace which, according to the Nazi regime, had no right to live. Those individuals were targeted to be murdered by the state via involuntary euthanasia, usually through the compulsion or deception of their caretakers. The term included people with disabilities and later those considered grossly inferior according to the racial policy of Nazi Germany. This concept formed an important component of the ideology of Nazism and eventually helped lead to the Holocaust.[1] It is similar to but more restrictive than the concept of Untermensch, subhumans, as not all "subhumans" were considered unworthy of life (Slavs, for instance, were deemed useful for slave labor).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_

Martin Niemöller was a German Lutheran pastor and theologian born in Lippstadt, Germany, in 1892. Niemöller was an anti-Communist and supported Adolf Hitler's rise to power. But when, after he came to power, Hitler insisted on the supremacy of the state over religion, Niemöller became disillusioned. He became the leader of a group of German clergymen opposed to Hitler. In 1937 he was arrested and eventually confined in Sachsenhausen and Dachau. He was released in 1945 by the Allies. He continued his career in Germany as a cleric and as a leading voice of penance and reconciliation for the German people after World War II.

Note this part

the people who were put in the camps then were Communists. Who cared about them? We knew it, it was printed in the newspapers. Who raised their voice, maybe the Confessing Church? We thought: Communists, those opponents of religion, those enemies of Christians—"should I be my brother's keeper?"

Then they got rid of the sick, the so-called incurables. I remember a conversation I had with a person who claimed to be a Christian. He said: Perhaps it's right, these incurably sick people just cost the state money, they are just a burden to themselves and to others. Isn't it best for all concerned if they are taken out of the middle [of society]? Only then did the church as such take note.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We need to built a wall around Florida to stop the spread of Nurgle's Garden

[-] isame@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Can I be rescued first, please?

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Florida can't sink fast enough

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago
[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Stopping your kids from dying from easily preventable diseases is just like having them sold away from you, actually

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

No they’re ok with that actually.

It’s really about your children being your property and the state mandating vaccinations is infringing on your rights as a property holder to do with your property what you will. Your children are your slaves and the state mandating anything means you become its slave

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

This makes sense actually, fuck

[-] No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago

Wasn't Florida ground zero for super gonorrhea? I wonder what sort of super disease will be born from this.

Florida should return to the sea.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago
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