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[-] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

This reads like the wealthy realizing, in real-time, that the poor can't spend money they don't have, more than anything else. Like, no shit, dude.

Use your privileged position to make actual change if you care so much. He doesn't though, so he's not going to. Instead, he'll make sure we all know that we can get an entire combo for only $5. Wow! Truly a hero of the down-trodden, this fucking guy. I'd love to be proved wrong, but we all know where this is headed. His virtue signaling doesn't change that, just like it doesn't change that stunt he pulled with potus and all that it so clearly represented. Just more mealy-mouthed lies from another worm in a suit's all it is.

[-] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

This reads like the wealthy realizing, in real-time, that the poor can't spend money they don't have, more than anything else.

If only someone warned them about this!

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah, that's like, the most classic of Marxism

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure Adam Smith and Karl Marx both understood that one

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Even Henry fucking Ford understood that

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Hey let's spend 20 million to market a 'deal' that will actually end up making us $100 million due to the increase in patronage. Remember, we can't survive as a company if we don't double shareholder earnings every fucking year in perpetuity

[-] glibg@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

Lmao "the poors can't afford our shit... maybe now is the time to advocate for higher minimum wage" fuck off corpo dickheads

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago

Psst, hey, got a handy hint for you: you can actually raise wages at your business without it being mandated by minimum wage laws.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 week ago

Paying an employee minimum wages just means you'd pay them less if it was legal.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Yup. The bare minimum because the law says you must.

These fuckers would all keep slaves if it wasn't illegal. It's not the ethical and moral disgrace of slave owning that stops them, but the legal aspect of it.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that the CEO of McDonald's is aware of that.

The rationale here is that if they get minimum wage increasesed, they can raise their workers wages without the reality or perception that they're ceding a fiduciary advantage to their competitors.

It's a reality that needs to be addressed. Some major corp had to eventually acknowledge it. Everyone knew it, nobody wanted to be the first to say it.

The first step is admitting there is a problem. The gravity of even this first step, and the fact that it's from Trump's fucking gold standard for food and American business, is massive.

[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ummm... Isn't this already true of McDonald's? They aren't at $18 an hour everywhere, but I believe the average is $15+ for starting wages. I would guess they haven't hired anyone for anything successfully at minimum wage. (Edit: my guess is wrong. Can't even serve fries with dignity in oklahoma. Crazy.)

This isn't generosity; several market forces push fast food in this direction. In fact, it makes a lot of sense for this CEO to lobby for it. It will cost competition more than it will cost them.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, but you don't get to keep your job in publicly traded companies if you aren't hitting the delusional talking points of people bent on burning society and country down so they can get a 9th yacht.

It's Fordism, the dude literally realizing his employees can't even eat there. Since most of his employees are on government assistance, it's true corporate welfare while he pretends he can't change things.

I hope Boston Dynamics is working on a robot that can operate a guillotine; we have an industrial scale of resetting to get through.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

I haven't gone to a mcdonald's by choice in almost 4 years now. When my meal rose from 12-13$ to 17-18$ I stopped going. Just for the chuckle I put that same meal into the app, it's now 22$ after tax. yea no I'll just go to apple bees or dominos and get more food for less.

[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The last time I was there the dollar menu meal still existed I think. Fairly certain the last time I was there was probably around 2011/2012, to pick up some chicken nuggets for some kids.

The last time I went there regularly, you could buy two full meals for less than 5 bucks (or at least really close to it). And even that was overpriced. This is a place that has insane profit margins, but will yell at employee for putting an extra pickle slice on anything. And there's some low quality pickles to be honest.

[-] Azal@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago

I remember the last time I ate at mcds. Summer 2020, middle of move, wrapping up about 2am. mcds is the only thing close that's open, don't want to have to drive anywhere. I remember their dollar menu used to be tolerable.

Cost me $10 for the "value meal" of the two tiny wimpy cheeseburgers that used to be a dollar, small fries and small drink. And I had to get the meal because it was cheaper than buying separately like I used to do. That is more than double the price I used to have to pay for that meal.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I can get a large pizza from Dominos for less than 10 bucks with a coupon if I pick it up myself.

[-] forrgott@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

If you’re upper-income, earning over $100,000, things are good … What we see with middle- and lower-income consumers, it’s actually a different story.

When had this ever not been true? What a windbag.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

Over $100K ain't chump change, but that also isn't the line where "upper income" starts.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/heres-minimum-salary-required-be-considered-upper-class-2025

The Pew Research Center defines upper-income households as having incomes greater than $169,800, based on three-person households. For a household with a single earner and no additional income, that $169,800 is the minimum salary required to be upper class. With two earners, each with the same salary, that minimum would be $84,900 each.

[-] Reyali@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

And the difference between that level of “upper class” vs the truly wealthy is insane.

Unless you’re in places like CA or NYC, $170k allows for a very comfortable life. It’s nothing to scoff at and it is absolutely beyond what most people in this country have.

But when thinking of the “upper class,” I think most people picture lush lives. Mansions, yachts, foreign vacations, private schools, house staff, etc.

I don’t think most people imagine someone who lives in a nice suburban neighborhood, saves enough money for retirement that they actually expect to retire in their 60s, and takes a modest vacation every year. But that’s closer to what $170k gets you. It’s comfortable and it’s a life most people would kill to have. But it’s a whole lot closer to a stereotyped “middle class” experience than it is to what most people imagine “upper class” to look like.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

You lost me at "vacation", like that's a real thing? (/s)

[-] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

This has gotta be some AI drivel. It even tried to say upper class in San Francisco starts at $69k so unless they’re talking about 1930 this is nonsense.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

uh there are still loads of people living on like 30k/yr. you 100k people will fucking live

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

I never suggested otherwise. I was pointing out how disconnected from reality the really “upper income” CEO is.

[-] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 6 points 1 week ago

this is the economy you helped create dickshitter.

[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I guess capitalism isn't always perfectly dead set on breaking itself.

[-] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Sooner or later, reality teaches it's lessons.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Americans tried to escape Fordism, but eventually you need someone to buy the thing you're trying to sell.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

More basic dishonesty from McDonald's and from Fortune. If he really wanted to raise the lowest hourly wages for his salaries, he could have done so already. There's no need to wait for a minimum wage increase.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, and if you could not serve dogshit quality food, that'd be great

[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

As a Shareholder this man needs to be FIRED! If POORS can't Afford our Meals then we should RAISE the Prices so that NON POORS can Also not Eat our Food because for $15 you can get a MUCH BETTER HAMBURGER Elsewhere! And then we can FIRE Cooks too to save even MORE Money!

[-] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Next: replacing the customers with kiosks

[-] commander@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Someone actually figured out that a service company competing with a shit ton of other service companies in a service economy needs people that work service jobs to be able to afford their services. They won't raise wages themselves alone because it's not like McDonald's workers will spend the raised wages solely at McDonald's. They have other essentials and non-Mcdonalds services to pay for. They need every place to have their minimum wage increased and then McDonald's try to capture a larger portion of everyone's higher income that exceeds their higher labor cost. Stagnant incomes means non-essential services like McDonald's get squeezed out

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

Ohh I am sorry you doubled your price over last decade...

Did the wages double?

I hope idiots stop eating your slop... Deny the parasite profit.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

The closest McDonald's to me has a local BBQ joint right next to it at about the same price point. There's zero value prop, but these dumb-dumbs had to realize it after they lost a shitload of customers.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Literally the only thing I'll go there for is a happy meal for the kids on very rare occasion if I'm in a pinch.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

nice of him to say minimum wage should be higher so he can make more money, but why isn't he increasing it for his own workers?

he'd get a competitive edge and put some pressure on other companies in competing markets to do the same. what's stopping him?

[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I looked at this recently and he has. Years ago. They had to, because everyone sees these jobs as bad.

In fact, that's one reason for this company to want a minimum wage increase. Won't cost them nearly as much as it'll cost some competitors (especially mom&pop places, I imagine).

[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

He can just pay them more than minimum wage lol

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, that's not how the modern economy works. A CEO can't just pay higher wages randomly. They have to adhere to some invisible laws guiding them towards paying the minimum wages they can get away with. If they pay more, they get fired and replaced with another CEO who pays less again.

The only way to make a company pay more is if it benefits the company or if it's forced by law, i.e. legally-mandated minimum wage. That, however, is a bad idea too IMHO because for one some businesses who're just barely profitable today would simply go out of business and people would lose their jobs, and also it would make human employees more expensive and companies would look towards automating their jobs away, because machinery would be more competitive.

IMHO the best solution is to give people money, but not through the workplace, but through a legally-mandated universal basic income that is handed out independent of whether you have a job. Otherwise, you're forcing people to go to work to be able to live and people would have to suck up whatever bad working conditions their workplace features just to be able to survive, i.e. the same we're seeing with medical insurance today when it's tied to work requirements.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I advocate for what I call "Universal Ranked Income": Everyone gets $10,000 a year by default, while jobs get a fixed amount, no negotiations with a company. it is decided for a job class to be assigned to a rank by the whole nation, regardless of location. Getting an education or holding a job replaces the basic income - $12k to $20k for a student based on grades, $40k if a waiter, $60k or 80k ranks for higher labors, $100k as a CEO. There are absolute income and wealth caps, the taxes also become increasingly higher for each pay grade. After taxes, a store clerk gets $30k, and a CEO is down to $60k.

In effect, that means "best" occupations are only twice the value of a regular job, instead of the insanity we see with CEOs having 1,000x+ the income of a normal human. Only 6x the income of someone who isn't working. Also, having fixed incomes might help prevent inflation, since corporations have to target job ranks for pricing. UBI also gives everyone benefits, such as basic shelter, generic food, healthcare, a boring car, utilities, and so forth. Money is solely for lifestyle upgrades and luxuries, rather than for buying necessities.

By having universal benefits and a modest amount of money, workers would be able to freely unionize, strike, participate in politics, or avoid bad workplaces. Without being held hostage by capitalism, people can help decide the direction of society without having to sacrifice their wellbeing.

[-] FragrantGarden@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago

Why would I be a CEO for twice the pay as the clerk? I'm sandbagging it all day long at those rates.

[-] Sidhean@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

World needs a lot more store clerks than CEOs, as it turns out

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