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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by CinnasVerses@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

I used to think that psychiatry-blogging was Scott Alexander's most useful/least harmful writing, because its his profession and an underserved topic. But he has his agenda to preach race pseudoscience and 1920s-type eugenics, and he has written in some ethical grey areas like stating a named friend's diagnosis and desired course of treatment. He is in a community where many people tell themselves that their substance use is medicinal and want proscriptions. Someone on SneerClub thinks he mixed up psychosis and schizophrenia in a recent post.

If you are in a registered profession like psychiatry, it can be dangerous to casually comment on your colleagues. Regardless, has anyone with relevant qualifications ever commented on his psychiatry blogging and whether it is a good representation of the state of knowledge?

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[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 3 months ago

Sorry not in that profession, but if somebody who is reacts, I'd also like an answer to the question of: 'if a member if one of your organisations commits suicide, claiming sexual abuse, and is not your patient, would it be unethical to claim they are crazy/cast doubts on their ability to interpret the real reality, as an basically embedded psychiatrist?'. More of a question for an ethics committee I guess.

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago

I'm not in the profession either, but that sounds horrendously unethical.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

unethical

His post on a woman in the EA/LW world who took her own life after saying she had been sexually harassed is https://archive.is/I85mC and there are discussions on Old! SneerClub here and there. I am not comfortable going into this without training in how to talk about self-harm and first-hand knowledge but yeesh.

The Tumblr he cites belongs to Kelsey Piper, a self-identified journalist and meatspace friend who receives donations from people and orgs in the Effective Altruism world and keeps reporting on how EA ideas and people are great.

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago

Okay, "unethical" was a colossal understatement for Scott's actions, the guy should be blacklisted from practicing and have his license revoked

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Good point that SlateScott commented on accusations of abuse in rationalist and adjacent organizations. Would the Goldwater Rule have applied? At least there has been some reporting on those accusations but I don't know if it was on the ground or just phoning and emailing people from NYC, Chicago, or LA.

Someone with biochem, pharmacy, or psychology training could comment on some things SlateScott has written.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 0 points 3 months ago

Due to the victims wishes (which I was aware of the time of posting), of this all not to harm EA, I have decided to delete the post. We saw it here and talked about it, feel no need to leave it around so it can spread to people with even less context.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A clinical psychologist in a EU country looked at Lorien Psychology and said that the writing looked like typical American biomedical psychiatry with some self-promotion. In the UK and EU you can find psychiatrists who say things like "psychiatric diagnoses are scientifically worthless as tools to identify discrete mental health disorders," I think Scott Alexander blogged about Thomas Szasz at some point https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190708131152.htm

I am not comfortable exploring the question "did he violate professional ethics?" further because that seems like an unhealthy parasocial relationship like cyberstalking or swatting. I never met him or anyone who met him. More shoeleather reporting on these communities would help!

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