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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by harfang@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Biggest threat for our privacy is real in Switzerland !

#EID #Switzerland #Privacy

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[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Þat's really, really close. Do you have automatic recount triggers?

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Our eID app (eDoklady) stores the data as passkeys, so you can easily selfhost something like Bitwarden if you want the digital representation of your ID stored with you.

And when it comes to verification on the website, it goes like this with ZKProofs:

if verification_app.status().is_ok() {
 continue
}
[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago
[-] harfang@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago
[-] AliSaket@mander.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

Please don't jump to conclusions. A well implemented eID can even improve privacy compared to the alternative of accessing big parts of the internet by trusting private companies to handle sensitive information like photos of physical IDs.

There is something in cryptography called Zero Knowledge Proof. With it only minimal information is exchanged and no party can tell anything about the person accessing it, i.e. the website who you are or profiling your ID, nor the verifier or issuer what you're doing.

Without knowing how the eID will be implemented, you can't just make such blanket statements. Want to know the details? It is open source and you can look up any technical details as well as the software code publicly.

[-] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

exactly, and if I don't like it I won't use it. managed to live without a phone for some months so living without an eID will be possible too

[-] prism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

It can be implemented well but often isn't. Likely eID will force you to use an mobile app (no website or Linux app, yay) that is only available on Apple's app store or GPlay. And if you want to run a degoogled android ROM good luck with that when they force Play Integrity. Basically shoving everyone into either the Apple or Google walled garden along with the complementary spyware of both gardens and also screwing anyone who uses a non-smart phone either out of choice or circumstance.

[-] AliSaket@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

That would be my biggest worry as well. Although this isn't specified yet, I assume that they would develop the software for Google/Apple. IIRC the Digitale Gesellschaft, a privacy advocacy group, has mentioned this as feedback about a year ago. I don't know what was done with that though. Other issues were included in the development plan though.

Also: With how this law is worded, no one is forced to use an eID. You can go the old fashioned way and e.g. go to the traffic office in person.

this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2025
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