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[-] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 days ago

I think my cat is a big stupid cat so we are even.

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[-] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 3 days ago

I've been wondering if that actually holds any water - or is it just some outdated, poor-quality study (or Sunday newspaper article) that was quoted so many times that everybody believes it now?

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 33 points 3 days ago

I don't buy this because cats will react totally differently to cats than people. Regardless of posture. If my cat sees someone walking down the street she doesn't get angry. If my cat sees a cat outside she's already on the defense.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think people are leaving out purring and kneading as behavior. Both are kitten behaviors. Suggesting to humans they click into "kitten mode"

[-] falseWhite@programming.dev 95 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

he believes cats are semi-feral and that they think we are cats too

Ok, so it's just something someone believes, it's not very scientific... They don't really provide much evidence other than belief

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 62 points 4 days ago

Probably this is yet another case of a journalist spinning yarn out of some poor researcher's paper summary, and then being quoted out of context.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago

Cats don't see you as cat, but also not as someone superior, they can see you as friend, but you have to gain it, if not, you are only an tin opener and food supply. They are anarchists by nature.

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[-] REDACTED@infosec.pub 16 points 4 days ago

When I had a dog, I used to think my dog thinks he will grow just as big as me and will join my daily routine, which was a bit depressing when you think about it

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[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 95 points 4 days ago

No, they have absolutely no idea about nuclear war and apparently no clear sense that we might be some other species, despite not quite having the strokably hairy torsos they enjoy.

Speak for yourself, my torso hair is luxurious.

[-] Uli@sopuli.xyz 47 points 4 days ago

My cat knows about nuclear war. He simply hasn't chosen to exercise the knowledge.

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[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago

This will totally dox myself to anyone who might be in or know someone in an old friend group.

I'm a very furry person - I joke that I put the hair suit in hirsute - but at least it's soft! Years upon years ago, I had a one night stand with my then future partner's (now ex's) best friend. It was bad. Really, awkwardly bad. The kind of bad where I woke up the next morning and, instead of trying for another go, groaned inwardly because they were still there, a living reminder of how bad it was.

I took out my phone and hastily messaged my best friend, asking her advice on politely dealing with this. Unbeknownst to me, my guest was awake, messaging my future partner. She described being barely awake in the early morning, petting my cat. I didn't have a cat or any pets. As she became more aware, she realized she was petting my chest.

Apparently some humans think I'm a big stupid cat too.

P.s. She also thought the sex was awful.

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[-] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 84 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Easy test at home. Bring a strange human into your house, note the reaction. Bring a strange cat into your house, is the reaction the same? If not then cats are smart enough to mark a distinction between people and cats.

[-] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I agree and disagree. If you did a large enough trial with many animals and people, for each of many test cats in homes, then the data might show this. I just think that even if this hypothesis is true, the reaction to every cat/person won't be the same for a given test cat. That could be a noisy signal.

[-] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It was more a plea to cat owners that know their cat. The cats I know don't tolerate cats on the street outside their house, let alone inside, plenty of people around though. I'm sure there's exceptions, I don't know cats well. As a rule, I think they're intolerant of strange cats being in "their" space, less so humans. We don't smell like cats, we don't sound like cats, we don't act like cats. Cats aren't dumb (except orange ones), they know we aren't cats (even the orange ones)

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I have never seen a cat beg another cat for food. I have seen plenty of cats beg humans for food. I am pretty sure cats are smart enough to realize we are not cats. For one, we have hands we can use to open doors and give pets

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[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago

Can confirm, am big stupid cat. 😺

[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 17 points 3 days ago

I've heard this a few times and doubt it. At least with my cat. He howls at other cats and tries to attack them. He loves humans.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Because you're his big bald kitten

[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

Oh boy. You don't know how right you are.

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[-] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 days ago

Did I miss the explanation of why this person thinks such a fuckin stupid thing?

[-] mbfalzar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 days ago

The thing I've seen is that when they show dogs an image of their owner while the dog is in a PET scan, and show the dog pictures of other animals, the same part of the brain lights up, while showing the dog pictures of other dogs lights up a different but close area of the brain. Doing the same test on cats had one area lighting up for other animals, but the same part lighting up when shown their owner and when shown other cats

[-] Johanno@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago

While it is scientific people should provide the context that we don't really understand brains fully yet and this doesn't mean that his belief or conclusion is correct

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

3 college professors (1990) suggested we read Desmond Morris' books. Don't know how the science has stood up, but he believed this. Dogs and cats think humans are weird versions of their own species, that we're basically their parents, and act accordingly. Nothing IRL has dissuaded me from that notion.

One interesting idea I got from him; When we're small we love huge animals, see them as parents. As we get older, we like small animals, see them as our children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Morris

Again, don't know how it stands up, but The Naked Ape is damned thought provoking.

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[-] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 30 points 4 days ago

And they KNOW humans provide sustenance on a regular basis, and protection, so I can’t believe they think we’re just giant hairless monstrous cats. They’d have to think everything else is a cat otherwise. Look at the flying cats, mom! I’m gonna catch and eat one!

[-] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Perhaps they think we're too stupid to realise they've grown up and could feed themselves, just so long as they pretend to be kittens by meowing

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A dog is an herd animal and need an lider to follow, a cat (except lions) are lone hunters, they don't even have the concept of an lider, the can have anarchistic groups and friendships when they have with it advantages to obtain food.

The dog thinks, he takes care of me and feeds me, he must be a god

The cat thinks, he takes care of me and feeds me, I must be a god

[-] Redfox8@mander.xyz 8 points 3 days ago

Dogs don't need a leader - the whole alpha male wolf thing has long been disproven, by the original author none the less. Dogs are highly social and live in groups, yes, but there's no boss dog. Very few animals have a concept of a leader. In fact I'd argue that none do and it's a totally human idea.

I like your cat/dog thinking idea though. Cats very much think 'me me me'!

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[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 days ago

LIDAR. Cats don't even have the concept of it.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Have they even started work on Maxwell's Equations?

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago

I can't even get one of my cats past intermediate algebra, and the other keeps confusing the Kronecker delta with the partial derivative delta. I'll keep trying, I won't fail them.

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[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

That's pretty rich given that they're the ones who are big, stupid cats. 😡🤬

[-] AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago

The difference between a domestic cat and a wild cat is like 90% size.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

I've seen people who treat their cats like they are little stupid humans.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

But they are!

They can't even turn doorknobs, no matter how many months they try. But you give them a lever knob, that's a totally different story...

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