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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Full Hezbollah statement is a bit better than the quote of it that was snipped out earlier.

🟡🟢 Hezbollah:

In the name of the Almighty.

Humanity bows its forehead at the horrific and brutal crime committed by the zionist murder and criminal gangs in the Al-Maamadani Hospital in Gaza, which claimed the lives of hundreds of innocent martyrs.

This massacre is a continuation of the massacres that preceded it, from the massacres since the establishment of this criminal, usurping entity in Deir Yassin, Houla, Sabra and Shatila all the way to the massacres of Qana and others over the years of the hateful occupation, revealing the true criminal face of this entity and its sponsor, the greatest Satan and criminal: the United States of America. The U.S. bears direct and full responsibility for this massacre and for all crimes committed by the zionist enemy.

Merely issuing statements of condemnation and denunciation are no longer sufficient. We call on the peoples of our Arab and Islamic nation to take immediate action in the streets and squares to express intense anger and put pressure on governments and states wherever they are.

International and regional organizations must take immediate action against the massacres and genocide of the oppressed Palestinian people and the implementation of forced displacement under the weight of massacres, terrorism, and murder. ‏

Let tomorrow, Wednesday, be a day of unprecedented anger against the enemy and its crimes and against Biden’s visit to the zionist entity to cover and protect this criminal entity.

Let the message be clear that this is a day that comes after it on the path of resistance, victory, and retaliation for the oppressed against the oppressor.

Indeed, Allah is capable of granting them victory.

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Seeing as Tel Aviv was shelled when Blinken visited, will the same happen when Biden visits? I assume sending the US president to a bomb shelter will result in something crazy

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

#PalestineGenocide is trending on twitter

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

If a ground invasion of Gaza is imminent, how likely do you think the IOF will resort to chemical warfare in order to flush out militants from their tunnels? I really don't see them having the courage to go to the tunnels themselves, and bombs can only do so much.

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Increased alert status at the US Embassy in Baghdad

Where's that meme with the grim reaper knocking on doors

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[-] AtomPunk@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Has there ever been a case of retaliation against people who donate to leftist causes (ex: bail for BLM protestors)? The least I could do was donate to a group pledging medical aid to Palestine, as I feel useless otherwise. My only worry is retaliation from bloodthirsty Israel supporters; even the liberals are baying for blood, and sending medical aid to Palestinians would put donors in their crosshairs.

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

C-SPAN callers are amazing.

I don't care if they elect Satan, Jeffries is a communist.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Supporting Israel Is. An. Investment. In. Democracy.

[-] WilsonWilson@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago
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[-] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Decades? But those could take weeks to happen, I can't wait that long!

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

cw: distressingly insane straight people shit.

spoiler

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[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

so what do you guys think of mutually assured destruction? with how escalating things are i'm getting more and more convinced the US is just going to go for it against a nuclear power, but what if that doesn't mean an immediate ICBM exchange? what if everyone figures if nobody uses it first nobody will, and we actually just have WW3 (extra farce edition). and then at the end of that some bloodthirsty sore loser does the ICBMs, because of course they will

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wolf Bitzer just asked his guest about the "suffering of the Palestinian people". The guy's first name is Mohammad. I was surprised. Could this actually be a good segment?

Nope. It turned out the guy is an advisor to the IDF who lives in Tel Aviv and he went directly into "Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields..."

Ninja edit: He's said said the phrase "human shields" at least three times now.

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Edit 1

Mohammad Kabiya | محمد كعبية (@mohammadkabiya)

Israeli Air Force, Search & Rescue Reservist | Strategic Consultant on the Middle East. عربي بدوي إسرائيلي | مستشار استراتيجي 🇮🇱

Social Media Influencer

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Oops. I forgot the punchline that is the header...

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[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, I support the two-state solution.

Liquefaction and gasification of every genocide perpetrator, then scoop that up in a beaker

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"At the end of this war, not only will Hamas no longer be in Gaza, the territory of Gaza will also decrease"

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

US Vetoes United Nations Security Council Resolution on Gaza

"Once again, the UNSC failed to fulfill its responsibility," Erdogan said, adding that mainstream media "whitewashes" human carnage with biased and hypocritical publications.

On Wednesday, the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) held a vote for a Brazilian-drafted resolution that calls for humanitarian pauses in Gaza at the UN headquarters in New York.

The Brazilian-drafted resolution won the support of 12 of the 15 members of the Security Council. The United States, which has veto power, was the only council member that voted against it. Britain and Russia abstained.

Before voting on the Brazilian draft, the UNSC voted separately on two amendments to the Brazilian draft submitted by Russia. Wednesday's failure by the Security Council was the second in a row to adopt a resolution on Gaza.

On Monday, the UNSC failed to adopt a Russian-drafted resolution that would have called for a humanitarian cease-fire. The draft resolution failed to win enough votes in favor for adoption.

The Russian amendments - on a call for an end to indiscriminate attacks on civilians and a call for a durable humanitarian cease-fire, instead of humanitarian pauses contained in the Brazilian text - were unable to pass as there was not enough support by UNSC members. The U.S. was the only council member that voted against the Russian amendments.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan blamed the United Nations, Western countries, and the media for the Gazan crisis, which "risks spreading to our entire region."

He mentioned that efforts to resolve the problems have been hampered by measures such as the United States sending an aircraft carrier to the region, cutting off humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people, and collective punishment of the people of Gaza.

"The UNSC, increasingly ineffective, once again failed to fulfill its responsibility. Western countries, so passionate about human rights and freedoms, only added fuel to the fire," denounced Erdogan, who highlighted that mainstream media "whitewashes human carnage with biased and hypocritical publications.

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[-] captcha@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Current Israeli line (taken from /r/worldnews) on the hospital is the bomb was a jihadi rocket misfire, but it also didn't destroy the hospital and kill 500+ people. Instead it just landed in a parking lot and blew up a bunch of cars.

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[-] Lettucetacoboutit@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

You guys talk about Israeli war crimes but never say what they are supposed to do.

Are they NOT supposed to bomb hospitals and starve children? What are they supposed to LISTEN to international law?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Protesters in Istanbul are storming the Israeli embassy

https://streamable.com/zs0jyl

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Israel's Defense Minister Yoav Gallant announced that after the end of the conflict between Israel and the Hamas movement, Tel Aviv intends to create a "new security reality" by cutting off all supplies to the Gaza Strip.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

A CNN nat sec guy was speaking about Lebanon and he said "We are seeing a lot of animosity." And there could be "third and fourth level impacts in the US".

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Kfar Kila, Lebanon currently

https://streamable.com/z4nw2b

These are not minor clashes.

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[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

The 2023 Argentine general election is today: October 22nd.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

https://streamable.com/z2mze8

Footage was released from inside the Israeli war cabinet showing prime minister Netanyahu, Ex-MoD Benny Gantz, and MoD Gallant being briefed by an Israeli army officer about the plans for some sort of a ground operation.

Seen in the photo the Director of Mossad, sitting far and disinterested in this propaganda video.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

UN claims their gaza operations have been robbed of fuel and medical supplies by unknown men.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

archive.today • 92NY Pulls Event With Viet Thanh Nguyen Over Criticism of Israel - The New York Times

92NY, one of New York City’s premier cultural venues, decided on Friday to abruptly pull an event that evening featuring the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Viet Thanh Nguyen after he signed an open letter critical of Israel, drawing criticism that the organization was stifling dissenting voices.

[...]

At the relocated event, Nguyen described the Y’s decision, which he said he was informed of around 2 p.m. that afternoon, as a “cancellation.” [...] No explanation had been given, he said. But he said he assumed it was a response to the fact that he was among the more than 750 writers and artists who signed an open letter published in The London Review of Books on Wednesday that was highly critical of Israel.

Comments are off - the cowards.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

The Rubicon has been crossed. There's only two paths forward: the Resistance can either stand down and completely destroy their credibility in the eyes of the world and remove whatever goodwill they had in their brilliantly executed military operation or the Resistance can escalate and openly wage a brutal regional war that ends with the complete destruction of the Zionist entity.

It's now or never.

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[-] blight@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

It's one thing to be a dejected western leftist ranting impotently about capitalism or whatever, but it's another to be fucking Iran or Hezbollah and just keep making vague empty threats. I feel seen and heard and represented in the worst possible way.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

I think everyone here needs to open their eyes and realise that they've already entered this war. The border stuff we're seeing aren't really random, they are preparations.

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[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Idk how reliable ME Observer is

⚡️Enemy information: 4 soldiers in the occupation army committed suicide after suffering a psychological crisis as a result of what they were exposed to in front of #Palestinian resistance fighters in the #Gaza Strip

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

IDF Service is mandatory so I can see why some people don't like being in it.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

https://streamable.com/vuw2tl

Istanbul, people launch fireworks at the Israeli consulate building

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